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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-01-22 02:42 pm

[ SECERT POST #1846 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1846 ⌋


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[identity profile] megalomaniageek.livejournal.com 2012-01-23 04:55 am (UTC)(link)
Well, on paper it's SUPPOSED to be innocent until proven guilty, but in practice it's not always.
Now to a certain extent I'm only recently becoming aware of it so I'm sure that contributes in large part to this perception, but it honestly seems like there are currently a lot more laws going onto the Senate and House floors that include clauses about indefinite detention without evidence and hearing. I know this has been going on forever to a certain extent (e.g. Lincoln famously suspended Habeas Corpus during the Civil War) but it really feels like every other bill nowadays works around due process. And sure the lawmakers say "well it's just because of this particular loophole that blah blah blah..." and sometimes you get assurances like "as long as I'm president you don't have to worry about indefinite detention" but ultimately it's just them being too goddamn lazy and impatient to put citizens' basic rights over their own interests.
And you're right - it's too broad as well. It's a bunch of industry people freaking out and paying lobbyists to go do something about this scary thing they don't understand, so the lobbyists probably ask for stuff like that because it seems sorta-kinda-reasonable-ish if you have no idea how websites work or what the web is worth.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-23 05:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, on paper it's SUPPOSED to be innocent until proven guilty

*laughs* Don't we fucking know it? I wanted to put "as they would enforce the murder charge" or theft or child abuse, but I've been spending way too much time on "unfunny business" and the urge to add an asterix and have a "provided you're from a "good family" etc" at the bottom of the comment. Hell, now that I read it back I'm thinking "yeah "speeding" - there probably are still places that's code for "being black/latino/generally non-white and having a nice car"."

I've got to be honest I was scolding myself for thinking this bill was too stupid to be real when I remembered that county that was trying to get a bigger budget by claiming they'd have to decriminalise domestic violence. I shit you not.

When I actually had it laid for me what the bill meant...these people don't understand how the internet works. Or they haven't thought it through. Probably both.

I was actually quite scared, thinking about all the stuff I wouldn't be able to do if this got passed. Not going to be able to listen to as much music on youtube, can't use an image in a blog post unless I've created it. And I have to wonder if this is going to tighten up the legal fidgey-widgeyness surrounding fanfic.

It's weird in a very Orwellian way to think that people could take legal action over something so ethemeral. But then, to quote Criminal Minds; "It's the internet, once it's out there, it's there forever."