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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-01-25 05:56 pm

[ SECRET POST #1849 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1849 ⌋


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(Anonymous) 2012-01-26 07:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I looked into this a while ago, because I was puzzled too.

The connotations the word has in America, mean it is a horribly misogynistic term used against women exclusively. If I were American, I would consider it a misogynistic word. The connotations it has in the UK, it isn't a misogynistic word, just an offensive term to use towards people otherwise covered by "douche" and "dick". "Twat" is very similar, but with less heat, so Americans will also lecture you on how you are horribly misogynistic and "are claiming that the UK is a magical land where sexism doesn't exist" if you use it.

The solution is to object to every single American who uses the word "spaz" online, and point out how offensive and ableist it is. I've never actually tried accusing them of pretending that America is a magical land where there is no prejudice against the disabled, because I'm not that much of a twat even when people are being terribly dense about language and culture not being American everywhere. Even when they try to claim that words are offensive purely because of their denotation in this one case.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-26 09:49 pm (UTC)(link)
My solution? Everyone is a wanker, a tosser, a toerag, or an arsehole. Use 'bloody' beforehand for extra emphasis.

I will confess to using 'twatwallet' occasionally. If one takes the literal meaning of it... well, that's a number of quite odd mental images.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-26 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Um, I'm from America and it's not considered universally sexist "in America". Here too, people's definitions of the word vary so widely it's basically impossible to know who will find it offensive and who won't.

[identity profile] kathkin.livejournal.com 2012-01-27 10:46 am (UTC)(link)
Personally I'm still a bit :S about using 'cunt' as an insult because of the implications of using any synonym of 'vagina' as an insult... but yeah, whenever I hear people say it's a slur against women I get O_o - as far as I'm concerned, 'cunt' is the worst thing you can call a man. Which has completely different connotations.


Apparently 'spaz' is not considered offensive (or is considered less offensive) in the US because 'spastic' was never used as a medical term over there so it went straight from the original meaning to the slang meaning without being associated with disabled people in between. It took me a while to realise that and I was very shocked when American TV shows would use it so casually.