[ SECRET POST #182 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #182 ⌋

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Comments

[pretentioustfu.livejournal.com]

24: I don't like Mary Sues. I don't see slash as an antidote to them (hello, yenta!Sues and miracle mpreg baybeez and wonderful adopted little girls and Stu-like semes and ukes), but I do think you're comparing apples and oranges here. Good slash is about the characters and making them work in a relationship with each other. It's about the characters and the universe, just in a different type of relationship.

Crappy slash, yes, is similar to Mary Sues since it is often based solely on the writer's fantasy, but in general, Mary Sues are a writer's fantasy about the perfect OC taking over the entire story and bending it to her will, and yes, they can be rather annoying to read for those of us who enjoy reading about the characters. Not all OCs are Mary Sues, just a specific subset of them, and honestly, that specific subset *is* boring and unoriginal.

Also, not all of us who dislike Sues are flaming the authors, or even active on any sporking commmunities. (I'm at fanficrants and GAFF, though I rarely spork a fic for being a Sue alone unless the Sue is really truly laughable for some reason, I usually spork it for being a Sue with horrible spelling, OOC characters, a plot that should have exploded, etcetera). A

I don't see the mindset of "we can only call crap on something if it's for the lulz." Crapfic is crapfic, and what does it matter to you or anyone else if someone rants about how hard it is to find goodfic in their fandom rather than trolling their fandom with horribly-written fic? If it's all meaningless, why does one reaction matter so much more than another as to make you think less of someone?

One last thing: trolls suck. I'm sorry, but they do. If you're going to snark on people for wasting their time or not finding things funny enough for you, maybe you should consider ignoring these people. That would be a lot cooler and a lot more apathetic than actively trolling them and looking down on them. I'm sure there's some places funny enough for you. ^_^

(anon behind 24)

[(Anonymous)]

a) I didn't compare them, and I'm sure I get where you got that from? All fair points, though.

b) Author-bashing is part of it, but some people lose their sense of perspective and it stops being funny. Mary sues are not some horrible war crime to be utterly outraged about! It's just fanfiction! Srsly, people.

c) Yes, thank you for reminding me that trolls suck. I had forgotten.

Not the (anon behind 24)

[(Anonymous)]

but some people lose their sense of perspective and it stops being funny.

exactly! that's the motivating factor behind almost every fandom kerfuffle on the internet.