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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-03-06 06:53 pm

[ SECRET POST #1890 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1890 ⌋


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[identity profile] marshwiggledyke.livejournal.com 2012-03-07 08:33 am (UTC)(link)
What's your suggestion for a replacement term for 'cis' then, o wise one? BTW, it's not an anagram. It's not even an acronym.

If a guy can't relate to any women who have similar fandom interests, but women should relate to guys in order to enjoy most kinds of media, there is something seriously rotten in Denmark.

[identity profile] malik-chan.livejournal.com 2012-03-07 08:48 am (UTC)(link)
lol I was expecting someone to try to start something, but I didn't expect you.

I never offered to come up with a different word. But I heard cis stands for "comfortable in skin," I never heard any other explanations as to how cis came to be. Cis is stupid because it it's only used when it comes to gender but nothing indicates that's all it's for in what I heard it stands for. Lot's of people are uncomfortable in their own skin who don't have gender identity issues.

I actually meant it in the way that the girls in fandom are talking about things that OP has no interest in talking about or they're bringing up topics that relate in no way to OP. I never said what you're thinking I said.

[identity profile] marshwiggledyke.livejournal.com 2012-03-07 03:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I've never heard of that particular definition of cis, but it's incorrect. As [livejournal.com profile] aiffe said, the name derives from chemistry, and is a way of clearly communicating 'someone who is not trans, genderqueer, agender, neutrois, or bigender' without constantly isolating trans people as 'not normal' or biologically unnatural or inhuman.

I'm sorry I'm not the person you expected to 'start something'- which I'm not. Was there a particular person you had in mind to reply to your comment?

Anagrams are when words are mixed up to make other words. Like Tom Marvolo Riddle = I Am Lord Voldemort.

Acronyms are when words are made out of other words by abbreviating them to their initials. Like AIDS, scuba, AM/PM, Nabisco, BBC, and SWALK.

As to your last point, well- as I feel no shame about fanboying after both genders of celebrities/characters, enjoying fanfic and fanart and fanvids, about the only thing I feel generally left out of my fandoms as a guy are whenever someone inserts a OVARIES SPLODE gif or something- although I don't mind. I'm not sure what kinds of topics are making the OP feel alone, but if they're the sort of topics that come up when a fandom is predominantly female, well, the only thing OP can do is either participate when those topics arise, or ignore them. OP could make his/their own topics for his/their own interests to see if anyone else would like to discuss OP's expressions of fannishness, but to tell women to stop making those topics just so OP will feel included is the fastest way to kill fandom bonhomie.

[identity profile] malik-chan.livejournal.com 2012-03-08 04:33 am (UTC)(link)
I don't really need it reiterated, I understood aiffe perfectly.

I didn't expect any specific person to try to start wank concerning my original comment, I was expecting sj warriors though, but I was talking about you, generalizing fandom, thinking that all fandoms are somehow run by only girls. I don't get where you would think that in the first place, considering the recent trend of bronies.

Go read the secret again, nowhere did the OP tell the girls in his fandom to stop talking about whatever it is they're talking about, they just feel left out for some unspecified reason.

[identity profile] marshwiggledyke.livejournal.com 2012-03-08 05:14 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I noticed you called me a fandom dipshit. Classy.

I did apologize for generalizing- as I said, in my limited experience, most of the people in the fandom spaces I've been involved in are female- I've never been in a fandom where most of the fans I interact with are male. I am not in MLP fandom, and know nothing about it. Also, I never said 'all fandoms are run by only girls'. Saying there is a female majority in my fandoms is not saying there are 'only' girls.

But you twice claimed that cis was stupid, without caring enough to find out just what it was you were calling stupid, just because you associate it with people you dislike. Do you not understand why I might be a little offended by this?

I have read the secret- I was addressing potential meanings and the appropriate approaches, some of which you were implying yourself.

[identity profile] citrinesunset.livejournal.com 2012-03-07 10:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Actually, cis is a Latin prefix that means "on the same side." Trans means "opposite side." Cis and trans are used a lot in chemistry (where you have cis and trans isomers), and as far as I'm aware, transgender and cisgender come from the Latin definition of the prefixes.

I've never heard the "comfortable in skin" thing.