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fandomsecrets2012-03-08 06:53 pm
case) wrote in fandomsecrets2012-03-08 06:53 pm
[ SECRET POST #1892 ]
⌈ Secret Post #1892 ⌋
Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.
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[How I Met Your Mother]
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[White Collar]
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[Smash]
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[How I Met Your Mother]
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[Revenge]
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[The Hunger Games]
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[Yu-Gi-Oh]
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[White Collar]
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[Obscurus Lupa, Subspecies]
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[Castleville]
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[Gintama]
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[The Cat Returns]
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[Mythbusters]
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[Invasion of the Body Snatchers]
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[Titanic]
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[All Dogs go to Heaven]
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[Hatoful Boyfriend]
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[Pokemon]
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[Phantom of the Opera]
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[The Middle]
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[life on mars]
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[Scrubs]
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[A Goofy Movie]
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[Nerimon/Alex Day]
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[Katie McGrath]
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[Chuck]
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[Top Chef Season 9]
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[The Vampire Diaries]
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[The Vampire Diaries]
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Notes:
Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 045 secrets from Secret Submission Post #270.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.
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(Anonymous) 2012-03-09 07:09 pm (UTC)(link)You know what? I believe women are capable of making their own damn choices, by her own priorities, and I don't see how this is some sort of radical, naive thinking when I'm talking to feminists!
Even if a woman chooses to become a nurse instead of a doctor because of what society says (which is a huge assumption already), how does it make it not her choice, or her not her own person? Maybe she chose to stay in society's ideals because she doesn't like being the pioneer, period. It doesn't make it not her choice.
I agree that it's good to be critical of what society does say a person's role is. However, I have a big problem with people assuming that most women are too stupid to figure out what society wants, or incapable of deciding things because society puts pressure on them.
You're eliminating the individual which is a big fucking deal. As a society, yes, women are pressured into doing x instead of y, and it's important to look at that. However, what you seem to be implying is that a women is not capable of choosing x for herself. More than that, you're saying she needs to question every time whether she's really making a decision. Yeah, that's pretty damn insulting. I'd punch you in the face for coming up to me and saying "Now did you really make the decision to do that or is it just because men told you to?" particularly when followed up with "But did you really think about the fact that men told you to this when you decided? Because if you didn't eliminate that entirely, you didn't make a real decision and you're not your own person."
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(Anonymous) 2012-03-09 07:14 pm (UTC)(link)(frozen comment) no subject
(Anonymous) 2012-03-09 07:31 pm (UTC)(link)You're losing the individual for the group.
If there are more women out there who are nurses rather than doctors, it is an important issue. Telling a woman that she was wrong to choose to be a nurse because that's what she wanted to be when she was a little because it wasn't what she wanted, just what the patriarchy wanted her to be, and she's just following her programming makes you an asshole. You would deserve to get popped in the nose for that.
You're implicitly making the judgement that no woman could truly want to be a nurse instead of a doctor. You don't get to do that.
You're assuming women are incapable of making choices for themselves unless they do it the way you say. That is misogynistic.
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(Anonymous) 2012-03-09 07:34 pm (UTC)(link)(frozen comment) no subject
(Anonymous) 2012-03-09 07:52 pm (UTC)(link)You're saying women can't make real choices unless they are aware of what the man is saying. You also say, most women aren't and don't make real decisions. This says "You are just following the man without realizing it. If you were really making your own choices, you would probably choose differently."
So go out to people following the man and preach about how they're not deciding for themselves.
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(Anonymous) 2012-03-09 08:07 pm (UTC)(link)It hurts when someone finds a flaw in your logic, doesn't it?
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(Anonymous) 2012-03-09 08:13 pm (UTC)(link)Really, you've been adorable, nonnie. But I have people to manipulate without their knowledge. Bye!