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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-03-15 07:55 pm

[ SECRET POST #1899 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1899 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[The Tempest]


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[SGA]


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[Life After People]


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05.
[Uncharted]


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[Super]


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[Japanese voice actors]


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[Kamen Rider Den-O, Doctor Who ]


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[Silent Hill 4: The Room]


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[Tripod]


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[True Blood]


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[Cabin Pressure]


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[How I Met Your Mother]


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[Buffy the Vampire Slayer]


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[Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy]


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[Gossip Girl]


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[Sense and Sensibility]


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[FFX]


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[The Princess and the Goblin]


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[Code Geass]


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[Star Trek (2009)]


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[Tree of Life]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 042 secrets from Secret Submission Post #271.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2012-03-16 01:43 pm (UTC)(link)
He....doesn't try to control anyone. Especially not Willow. Is he opinionated? Sure. But I would hope that from a feminist perspective that the burden would be placed on Buffy for somehow being too handicapped to think for herself, because any real adult wouldn't give a flying flip what Xander thought on their personal life.

Xander wasn't perfect, but he was hardly the worse. And god, I'm not even a Xander fan...I guess I just find him low on the totem pole. He never raped his girlfriend (Willow) or beat her up (Buffy), not to mention the fact that those two saw nothing wrong with their actions...so Xander's a jerkface who sometimes says inappropriate things. But my goodness, don't actions speak louder than words? At least he wasn't a rapist or an abuser. Good grief :(

(Anonymous) 2012-03-16 02:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Not being a rapist or abuser does not give him any brownie points. That part of your comment was pretty stupid.

(Anonymous) 2012-03-16 05:44 pm (UTC)(link)
True, because on this show, being an abusive rapist would earn him a legion of fangirls ready to rip people's heads off the second his behaviour was questioned.

[identity profile] philstar22.livejournal.com 2012-03-16 02:57 pm (UTC)(link)
So that is how we judge people now. As long as they aren't a rapist or abuser, everything is good and they are awesome? That is pretty depressing, frankly. Xander does try to control Buffy and Willow, at least in terms of romantic relationships. He thinks he has a say. And he tries to protect them, even they are more powerful than he is, he still acts like he is the hero and they are the damsels in distress. Xander is the typical "nice guy". And while that doesn't make him the worst character, those personality traits are some of the ones that bug me the most.

[identity profile] luxshine.livejournal.com 2012-03-16 05:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Given that two of the most popular characters in Buffy ARE a beater and a rapist, I can understand why it's put as a good point for Xander.

And seriously? Where do you get he's controlling? he gets as much a say in their romantic relationships as they get in his (In fact, less.) Trying to protect her friends? Oh, my. That's a horrible thing to do. He never acts like they're damsels in distress, he knows and acknowledges that they're far more powerful than he is, but he still tries to help. And, while yes, in seasons 1 and 2 he acts like an idiot teenager... well, he is an idiot teenager.

I get that people don't like him, but I don't get why he's called a "Nice Guy"tm, when he's not and the series gives us examples of real Nice Guys like Jonathan and Warren.