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⌈ Secret Post #1899 ⌋

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[The Tempest]

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[SGA]

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[Life After People]

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[Uncharted]

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[Super]

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[Japanese voice actors]

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[Kamen Rider Den-O, Doctor Who ]

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[Silent Hill 4: The Room]

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[Tripod]

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[True Blood]

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[Cabin Pressure]

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[How I Met Your Mother]

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[Buffy the Vampire Slayer]

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[Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy]

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[Gossip Girl]

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[Sense and Sensibility]

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[FFX]

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[The Princess and the Goblin]

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[Code Geass]

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[Star Trek (2009)]

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[Tree of Life]

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I know the reasons why people hate Xander, I just meant that I'm a bit perplexed by the intensity many dislike him particularly . He can be shitty, it's just that they all are sometimes, as are people in general.

I'm not so sure his actions are not acknowledged for what they are. Plenty of confrontations about them, and when he does them, I haven't gotten the feeling that we're meant to excuse him for them. And there are just as much shitty stuff from Angel, Spike and several other male characters. I see more of a problem with punishing the female characters for what they do. It might seem like the same thing, but imo it's not.

Personally, I realize there are worse characters than him. His particular traits just happen to be ones that are among the traits that most irritate me. I dislike him (not sure I'd ever use hate to describe a fictional character) because he's a "nice guy", because he reminds me of guys I know who have been particularly problematic in my life, because as a feminist I would have hoped that Joss would be capable of writing a more feminist character. Just being a male character who doesn't rape/abuse, doesn't outright dislike women, and doesn't have "traditional" values doesn't mean a character is feminist or not problematic. Joss seems to think that doing things that any decent human being would do should win a character points and makes them feminist even if they actually do a whole lot of problematic things. And that frustrates me.

I get what you mean, and I agree with you in general. I'm also very much a feminist, and the nice guy thing is icky. I've never seen Xander as a good guy as such, but I've interpreted many of his flaws as attempts to expose some of the underlying problems with them. Perhaps I've given Joss and the writers too much credit.

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