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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-03-17 03:12 pm

[ SECRET POST #1901 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1901 ⌋


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[identity profile] fscom.livejournal.com 2012-03-17 07:18 pm (UTC)(link)
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[identity profile] maxi1234.livejournal.com 2012-03-17 08:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Don't let stereotypes stop you from liking things. Be a proud geek! And if you're unhappy with your current situation change it, but one thing is really not related to the other.

(Anonymous) 2012-03-17 09:51 pm (UTC)(link)
It might be hard for them to be a proud geek if they grew up somewhere where being a geek is considered a bad thing.

[identity profile] lovelycudy.livejournal.com 2012-03-17 08:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Do you live with your parents because you can't afford living on your own? Because that's understandable.

Don't be ashamed of being a geek, it's all kinds of awesome.

(Anonymous) 2012-03-18 07:44 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know about OP, but I know more people my age (20s) that live at home than not because the cost of apartments here is ridiculous vs. the amount one can make. To me, it's kind of the norm for people to be living at home unless they've got an awesome career going on or they're living with a partner.

[identity profile] lovelycudy.livejournal.com 2012-03-18 06:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Pretty much this. I just turned 26 and most people I know are saving money or trying trying to get a good job to live on their own. I don't know about other countries, but here it's really, really hard to find a job that pays enough to pay the rent + pay the food + pay the taxes + pay the bills + travel to work + other extras that might come up. And we have very high inflation rates which makes living on your own even more hazardous.

[identity profile] quinnzel.livejournal.com 2012-03-17 08:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I hate using this phrase but, in this economy a fuckton of people are unemployed and are still living at home or had to move back with their parents or whatever. It's not just geeks. Don't be ashamed to read comics because of your living situation. That's silly. If anything, they might actually... ya know... help? ;)

[identity profile] lovelycudy.livejournal.com 2012-03-17 08:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you for saying it better than I did. I'm not American, but where I live, finding a job that allows you to live on your own is pretty difficult, not to mention renting a place (buying is out of question) and lots and lots of people live with their parents until they can find a job that allows them to live on their own or save enough money to move out. Many parents want their kids to stay at home until they are done studying, too. My father wanted me to live with him until I finish uni and I would still live with him today if he were with us. I don't think it's a reason to be ashamed, but I guess it's different in other places.

(Anonymous) 2012-03-17 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
This. That's just how the world is right now. I'm unemployed and live at home (I got signed out of work by a doctor, so I'm currently receiving benefits). I like geeky things and, you know what, I spend money on geeky things. I budget myself, and part of my budget is my Me Money - that bit of cash that's solely there for cheering me up, be it buyings books or DVDs or treating myself to a day out. Anyone who acts like being unemployed or on any sort of benefit means that you don't have a right to spend your money on things that bring you pleasure as well as necessities is being needlessly cruel, and I've had too many people try to send me into shame spirals over that crap to even listen any more. We're allowed pleasure in our lives, whether we're unemployed because there are just no jobs out there or disabled and unable to work, sitting at home feeling miserable helps nobody. Hell, it makes things worse.

[identity profile] dethtoll.livejournal.com 2012-03-17 08:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Who gives a shit? Read comics anyway.

I totally get the lack of knowledge thing. Comics have years and years of ever-shifting canon and it can be a bit overwhelming. It doesn't help when Marvel's idea of erasing years of canon involves an asinine Satan plot. Which is par for the course for them, unfortunately.

[identity profile] sparklywalls.livejournal.com 2012-03-17 08:45 pm (UTC)(link)
OP after graduating from uni I moved back in with my parents while I did a masters with the intention of saving money then moving out again when I graduated from that. Well the world economy crashed around then so I struggled for months to find a job. I did odd jobs here and there, like tutoring A Level students, but nothing permanent for ages. So I was stuck with my parents for three years, and unemployed for a time. And I read comic books. Allowing myself to enjoy something I loved made things a little less shitty. If people are going to judge you for something that is a bit out of your hands (a lot of people are struggling to find work) and apply lame stereotypes to you then they're the ones with the problem, not you.

I hope it gets better for you. I moved out again nearly a year ago now so there will be a light at the end of the tunnel. Also don't be intimidated. I used to be because I'm a woman so I was worried about people thinking I wasn't really interested, just trying to be cool. But I managed to get over that. I still ask questions in comic book stores sometimes and most decent store workers will probably just be glad you're interested in something that interests them too! The good thing about comic books is that their history has been rebooted so many times now that you can just dive right in anywhere.
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[identity profile] agentofhate.livejournal.com 2012-03-17 08:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Don't worry about stereotypes; times are tough for everyone right now. Having something fun to get into might even help ride it out.

(Anonymous) 2012-03-17 08:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I can certainly relate to your initial reason for avoiding comics. Before I ever bought a comic, I did a lot of internet and library research on the backgrounds of the characters I was interested in. Even then, I knew there was a lot I didn't know and I was afraid that I'd walk into the store and everyone would think that as a woman, I needed comics explained to me and I'd wind up cornered by some guy who wanted to impress me by demonstrating his superior comics knowledge by exposing my inferior comics knowledge. It turned out to be a lot of worry over nothing. Apparently, the people who work at the comics store just want to sell me comics! How about that?

As for your current reason: there are plenty of folks who are unemployed and/or living with their parents who are not comic book geeks and plenty of comic book geeks who have jobs and/or live on their own. I know people will ignore the exceptions in order to validate their beliefs in stereotypes, but you can't let that keep you from living. Besides, there's more to the stereotype than just "Unemployed, likes comics." You can set a good example of a non-stereotypical comics fan by being an interesting, motivated person who is temporarily unemployed due to circumstance and not laziness and does not look to comics as one's sole source of joy/reason for existing.

(Anonymous) 2012-03-17 09:49 pm (UTC)(link)
This secret reminds me how much I hate when people use the word "naive" in this context. Like, how does it make you naive to not know the diffrence between DC Comics and Marvel?

[identity profile] galerian-ash.livejournal.com 2012-03-17 10:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Comics ≠ American superhero comics

By which I mean, there are tons of really great comics that haven't been running for several decades. I totally get that it could be daunting to be a new reader of X-Men or Spider-Man for example, what with all that backstory. So go for something that doesn't have that; something that had only a few issues and is perhaps even completed.

[identity profile] intrigueing.livejournal.com 2012-03-17 10:43 pm (UTC)(link)
See, I'm totally different: I LOVE wading into the middle of something with a fuckton of tangled continuity and going through it without understanding half of the implications of what is going on. I find it gives the whole story a different effect and atmosphere that you cannot get any other way, and I love it. Being confused in the middle of a story is something I really, really, really enjoy. Lends such a sense of...I dunno, possibility and enormity and complexity and mystery to the situation. Like, if you don't know what the continuity is, your imagination concocts a vague awesome storm of possibilities. And I find figuring out continuity slooowwwwly in a backwards kind of way is just so fascinating and enjoyable, making retroactive connections and whatnot. So it was actually my inability to really understand the massive continuity snarls that actually attracted to comics in the first place.

Of course I'm not saying that everyone enjoys it like I do, but maybe not knowing all the continuity a story is built on isn't necessarily a bad thing.

(Anonymous) 2012-03-17 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
If you're geeking out over comics, you'll still be a comic geek, whether you're reading them online, getting them from libraries or buying your own copies. If you can afford to buy them and would like to own your own copies, go for it! You'll be supporting the industry at the same time, so it's a win-win. It's your money to do with as you see fit. :D
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[identity profile] cimikat.livejournal.com 2012-03-17 11:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Hey, a lot of us are in a similar spot. I just lost my job a couple months ago, and yet I still just bought myself a subscription to view Marvel's digital comic library. So ideally I should be saving my money and looking for a new job, but I love reading these comics anyways, and I do want to support the industry as I can. My roommates aren't into comics, but we're all geeky in our own ways, so I don't feel that shy reading my comics in the living room while we're all watching tv or something.

But yeah, also just here to spread the comic book love <3.

[identity profile] kasumi-sora.livejournal.com 2012-03-18 02:04 am (UTC)(link)
I'm in a similar situation. It just the world and luck right now.

Visit: http://scans-daily.dreamwidth.org/ to get your comics feet wet.
See http://noscans-daily.livejournal.com/ if you want to ask some nice people what's good reading and where to start.
You can also always look up public domain comics. They're free and entering.
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[identity profile] visp.livejournal.com 2012-03-18 02:28 am (UTC)(link)
Well, spending money on comics when you're unemployed and living with your parents isn't the most responsible of plans, but enjoying comics from the library or online is perfectly fine. Let your geek flag fly!

[identity profile] hako-neko.livejournal.com 2012-03-18 03:23 am (UTC)(link)
Don't be intimidated. If you want to know where to start or the appropriate stories to follow a character, someone online is always willing to help-- and if you just want some good recommendations, those are always readily available, too. :)

Many people seem to be intimidated by the size of it-- but you don't have to read everything. Hell, backreading can be fun, but even then, you're not required to go back to the very beginning.