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fandomsecrets2012-03-17 03:12 pm
case) wrote in fandomsecrets2012-03-17 03:12 pm
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(Anonymous) 2012-03-18 02:06 am (UTC)(link)"Calling for action against an injustice"
What is the injustice here? Is it that those - and I quote - "poofs" in Hollywood aren't coming out of the closet? That they're afraid for the sake of box office revenues and don't want to step in "the firing line"?
And I really really don't want to touch that metaphor. Just. No. No. "I fucking hate it when my art professor tells me I'm doing it wrong." Are you trying to say that closeted homosexuals are "doing it wrong"? You've seriously put me on the verge of tears. I'm doing it wrong because I don't want my strained familial relationships get even more strained and get bullied for yet another thing? Thanks so much, really. I need critique on how I handle my sexuality from people with a different perspective (=non-queer people)? Please don't ever use a metaphor like that again. You can't possibly begin to imagine how hurtful it is.
Okay, but you're really making me cry, so I'm done with this discussion. Have a lovely day. (I genuinely mean that.)
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Also, the only reason I used the phrase 'doing it wrong' was in direct parallel to your use of it in the comment before. Barring violence in all it's forms (mental, physical, emotional), I don't think there is a wrong solution. Just ones that will bring about change faster or slower. In that particular metaphor, 'doing it right' = 'getting the results you want in the time frame you want' therefore 'doing it wrong' = 'not getting what you want'. And honestly, I don't know what you consider to be an acceptable rate of change. I don't know if you think society is doing well in that regard.
I am sorry I hurt you and I am sorry there was a miscommunication.
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(Anonymous) 2012-03-18 09:51 pm (UTC)(link)Also, for the record, if you're paying for an education in art, maybe it might be helpful to listen to what your professors are telling you instead of getting pissed off because they don't see how special of a snowflake you are.
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I would say that Freeman never said anything about anyone being "the first in the firing line". In the context it's being talked about, that hurdle is long past. It was an ill-thought comment, considering that people stay closeted for lots of reasons. Plus, if legitimately the only reason actors are still closeted is the box ofice, there's the chance they're being coerced into it by studios or contractual obligations, which is a whole other field of injustice.
I can only speak for my own experience, but...being closeted was hell for me. And, honestly, it was ignorant comments like this from people close to me that gave me the courage to come out. Sure, they were problematic; but, at the same time, this person I care about spoke out to support people like me, without knowing they were supporting people like me. I'm not saying that we should be greatful for any little scrap of positive sentiment; we deserve more than that, and we shouldn't be satisfied with less. But even stupid, ignorant, borderline-offensive comments like this can give some people a little hope.
People outside the gay community not talking about things like this is a dangerous situation. Silence can hide bigotry just as easily as it can hide supporters who think it's "not their place" to speak. Coming out is terrifying enough when you do know that person isn't consciously homophobic.
The bad metaphor is...I'm not touching that. If you can't be told, as a ally, by LGBTQ* individuals (or any minority), that what you're saying is hurtful, offensive, badly worded, and generally in one way or another the wrong way to provide support? Then you have no right to call yourself an ally, because you've just shown you don't give a fuck about the people you're trying to help. I am very much hoping that person just got so carried away with their arty metaphor that they forgot what they were likening it to.
I really hope you're okay, for what it's worth, and I hope everything goes well for you, whether you choose to come out or not.