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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-03-30 06:36 pm

[ SECRET POST #1914 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1914 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[identity profile] fscom.livejournal.com 2012-03-30 10:39 pm (UTC)(link)
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[identity profile] amethyst-rei.livejournal.com 2012-03-30 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
This is on my to-read list.

Anyway, I've never read it so I have no opinion of the quality of the book, but if you're upset about it JUST because it's a "cliche" and are completely disregarding the overall quality... then yeah. Not cool.

Also, even though I've never read it, just by knowing what the book is about is enough to tell me that it's better than Twilight. Or has more depth, anyway. Even if the book is cliched and predictable, at least the subject means something. The same cannot be said for Twishit. Er, I meant Twilight.

[identity profile] yachinami.livejournal.com 2012-03-30 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
The only book of his that I've read is Looking for Alaska, but the summary for this book essentially sums up LfA too. Are all of John Green's books like this?

(Anonymous) 2012-03-30 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes. All his books.

First time I can say I'm glad I read a secret here. Now I won't waste my money.

[identity profile] greenhoodloxley.livejournal.com 2012-03-31 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
It certainly seems that way. The only difference being it's from a girl's POV this time, instead of a guy's. I swear that's the only difference in the summary.

[identity profile] saya22.livejournal.com 2012-03-31 05:19 am (UTC)(link)
Yes. You read one you've read all of them.

[identity profile] checkerblob.livejournal.com 2012-03-31 01:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Looking for Alaska is by far his worst, though. Paper Towns is basically a parody of LfA (he said he write it basically to undo the themes about love he presented in LfA when he realized how...well, nauseating that was.) And Abundance of Katherines is a great book- still kind of the same setup, but it's much less pretentious cliche, imo.

[identity profile] yachinami.livejournal.com 2012-03-31 04:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I didn't dislike LfA. Didn't think it was great, but it at least kept me mostly entertained, and really that's all I ever ask for in a book. Still, none of the themes really spoke to me since I didn't relate to the characters, so it's not something that I'd care to read over and over again, though if I do read another of his books, maybe I'll check out Paper Towns.

(Anonymous) 2012-03-30 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Feel almost the same way. So many little things bothered me. Greens quality of writing is...shaky? It's not brilliant or poetic and it's not Meyers. He's ordinary.

I don't have the book now but I do remember clearly a passage where a character threw up in their lap. It said the character was "...too weak to move his mouth..." to throw up in a pail. I am still oddly bothered by that because it's so off. You don't move your mouth to avoid throwing up in your lap (or whatever), you move your head. I know. Stupid little thing.

The passage above isa moment among many others that stood out as just wrong. Badly planned. Badly written. I expected more from this writer I'd heard so much about.

The fault in our stars was far from original and not the quality literature that so many claim it to be.

[identity profile] kayfig.livejournal.com 2012-03-31 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
I liked it a lot when I initially read it even though it had a lot of tired tropes (hard to find something that isn't the same as everything else these days) and THEN I read Looking for Alaska. And Paper Towns. And then I was like: Oh, I see. Every book has the same two leads with the same basic story. And then I was disappointed.

However, the way he wrote about death really resonated with me.

[identity profile] noapologiesx.livejournal.com 2012-03-31 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
I love John Green, but I think I like him way more as a person than as a writer. I found TFIOS pretty unremarkable, and I was amazed that so many people were raving about it.

Will Grayson Will Grayson forever, tbh.

[identity profile] tei-0.livejournal.com 2012-03-31 03:44 am (UTC)(link)
I've found all of his books to be rather bland. *shrug*

[identity profile] copulates.livejournal.com 2012-03-31 04:44 am (UTC)(link)
iasfm with this. it was my least favorite book of his and i don't understand how it received so much hype. it was so predictable and even though he finally switched up his main character to a girl, she has the exact same personality as every other main character of his

[identity profile] ologist.livejournal.com 2012-03-31 07:32 am (UTC)(link)
People like him from his videos, and a lot of those people also read his books. It's just a consequence of having an inbuilt audience - if he'd published it under a different name and not told the entire internet to buy it, it would be just another book in the YA section. Few people would look twice.

[identity profile] saya22.livejournal.com 2012-03-31 05:17 am (UTC)(link)
His books are so boring and predictable. The only reason I don't mind their presence in the YA lit scene is the fact that they portray guys to be just as melodramatic and annoying as girls when it comes to crushes.

(Anonymous) 2012-03-31 03:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I've never seen John Green as a spectacular writer. But I do enjoy his books. They're all rather similar, yeah, but they're an enjoyable read I find. And a lot of it can feel bland, but every now and then he writes a very quotable line or two, which is why his quotes are all over Tumblr and Twitter.

I think that there are some key differences between the books, despite their premises being pretty much the same. What I get out of it is that he uses the same premise, but builds off of it in a different way every time. I enjoy Paper Towns, Will Greyson Will Greyson and The Fault in Our Stars. I feel like John uses the same premise but builds interesting thoughts off of each.

I loved the way he used the different meanings of hamartia and the fault being with the characters of a story or in their decisions. It was an interesting way of looking at narrative regarding terminal illness. And I think the reason people love these books is because of the characters. Agustus Waters and Hazel Grace are quite lovable for a lot of people, because they can relate to them on a personal level. His stories are far more character-driven than plot-driven.

And unlike Twilight, the female lead isn't made of cardboard.

But I can see why people don't like his books, for sure. Just throwing my two cents in as a rational fan of his :P.