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fandomsecrets2012-03-30 06:36 pm
case) wrote in fandomsecrets2012-03-30 06:36 pm
[ SECRET POST #1914 ]
⌈ Secret Post #1914 ⌋
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Her pretty much telling Lance that she was in love with him and then turning around and making eyes at Arthur was the moment when I stopped liking Gwen.
I saw her saying that to Lance as her "choice" moment; to me, that was her deciding who she wanted to be with, who she felt more for and was willing to dedicate her time to. She said it knowing full well that Lance could die and she knew beyond a doubt that Lance loved her too so the whole "but he left her!!1! if he loved her, he would have stayed!!11!" argument doesn't fly for me. From that moment, I garnered that them 'being together' physically was not insanely important to her because she knew what kind of man Lancelot was, popping off at a moment's notice to go "prove himself." Hell, she harbored a crush on Lancelot for ages after he was in Camelot the first time. You expect me to believe that her undying love then just vanished because Arthur's baby blues started sparkling? No thanks, you can keep that shitty character development.
I loved Gwen. I really did. I thought she was badass. But then they made her a flake. And not only that! They made her an "I'm gonna stand here, arrange flowers, look pretty, and parrot to Arthur everything that Merlin has already said" flake. Ugh. I'm more angry about her than about Morgana. At least Morgana's shitty character 'switch' was a consistent one; she turned cray, she was consistently cray. She wasn't suddenly pyscho for the plot's sake and then never psycho again until four months later when the plot needed her to be.
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(Anonymous) 2012-03-31 03:21 am (UTC)(link)If they hadn't changed her dresses, she might have remained a better, stronger character.
There's never been a moment in the show when I've really been able to believe Gwen loved Arthur for Arthur and not his title. She definitely had a greater romantic interest in Lance (not sure about in love, but there was more depth of emotion involved), and even that one kiss with Merlin was more passionate than all the time she's spent sighing after Arthur. Maybe that's merely the chemistry or lack thereof between the actors - I don't know.
I wish that the writers had more guts to have not used magic as the reason why Gwen & Lancelot kissed that last time. If it had been me writing that scene, I'd have written it so they were discovered kissing in a bedroom.
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Except Lance didn't really give her a choice in the matter, did he? He ran off. She woke up expecting to find him there, and he was gone. Lance was the one who decided he had to step aside, Gwen never asked that of him. She didn't even believe she and Arthur had a chance, it wasn't like she jumped into Arthur's arms the moment he arrived, nor did she approach Arthur after Lance left. Things were clearly tense by the end of the episode.
Gwen and Arthur had some moments in the S2 episodes that followed, but they didn't get "together" until 3x10, when Arthur told her he would wait for her, and she said she'd wait for him. Before that episode, both characters believed it would never come of anything. She could have been with Lance--probably would have been with him--if he hadn't run off.
As a side note, nothing happened between Gwen and Lance after Lance returned at the end of S3, so I'm not sure how to interpret the She says she's "Arthur's" but when Lancelot comes around it's nothing but doe eyes and wistful looks and secret declarations of forbidden affection which is just all kinds of uncool comment.