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⌈ Secret Post #1914 ⌋

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Well, in Ned's mind, it's his responsibility to raise Jon if his mother's gone, if Jon is his. So for him, at least, it's a catch-22. But yes, Ned's silence only convinced Cat that he must have adored Jon's mother, and add to that the fact that in the book Jon looks more like a Stark than any of her kids save Arya - though in the show I think Robb looks the most like Ned - and he's a living slap in the face to her. And yeah, I expect she was pretty insecure, especially since Ned isn't the most open of men.

Ned is definitely trying to keep something secret - I can't see him refusing to name Jon's mother just because he doesn't want to talk about it, after all. If R+L does not equal J, there is another good reason. But R+L=J is the most likely. And in that case, as you are saying, there is no reason not to tell Cat eventually. She's not about to tell Robert - in fact, with the truth out I could see her wanting to help her husband keep their nephew safe. Note the 'their' - if Jon is Ned's nephew, it's much easier for Cat to be his aunt than his stepmother. But she's a Tully; they're all about family and I think once she knew the story, she'd be on board with the plan.

Ned's silence is definitely due to his honor because he wants to keep his word. But it kinda backfired - since Catelyn has only reasons to resent Jon, she insists he is sent from Winterfell when Ned leaves, putting him in considerable danger on the Wall. Presumably, Ned didn't take him south in case someone noticed either traits of Lyanna or Rhaegar in Jon, because then there'd be trouble. (That's the only explanation I can think of, anyway.)

Damn it, now I want a Ned wises up and tells Cat fic.

Yeah, all of that is definitely true. I do think the reason Ned didn't want Jon to come south with him was because he thought it'd be dangerous for him to be around Robert and other people who want Targaryens dead.

I do think it's interesting that it's not Cat who suggests Jon goes to the wall. But she does latch onto the idea once Maeter Luwin informs them that Jon had already said he wanted to join the Night's Watch. The interesting thing though is that she's not heartless about it. She thinks that it would be good because then Jon could be like a son to Benjen. So although she herself might not want to be a parental figure for Jon, she seems to want to encourage that kind of relationship with other people.

It's really the only thing that makes sense - why else wouldn't he take Jon along?

I don't see Cat as someone who could suggest a fourteen-year-old go to the Wall, of all places. But yes, she does see the good part of it for Jon as well as look at it as an out - since she is insisting that Jon not stay at Winterfell. To her it's a win/win for everyone, really.

I really think that by not telling Cat - and her associated and somewhat appropriate reactions - made it that much more believable that Jon was Ned's bastard (if the theory of R+L=J is true). By telling Cat and having her be all warm and fuzzy towards Jon suddenly would set off warning bells in anyone who might have suspected the truth.

While I still think it would be better all around for the Stark family to have known the truth of Jon's parentage, whatever that may be, I can see where Ned (and you two) are coming from.

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