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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-04-05 06:37 pm

[ SECRET POST #1920 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1920 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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[identity profile] murderershair.livejournal.com 2012-04-06 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
But... how? How did Dobby come to not internalize that notion, seeing as we never see another house elf with his point of view? I would maybe get it if he was raised in a more liberal household, but the Malfoys are supposed to be super abusive, so where would he have even heard that there was a world out there that would accept a free house elf?
(I love Goblet of Fire too, though)

[identity profile] intrigueing.livejournal.com 2012-04-06 02:17 am (UTC)(link)
Guess some house elves, like some people, are just smarter and stronger-willed than others and can see through bullshit and realize the dangers and unfairness of some traditions. Maybe because the Malfoys treated him so very badly, probably a lot worse than in most households (worse than Crouch treated Winky, as far as we know, and certainly a lot worse than how the Hogwarts elves were treated), so maybe he couldn't convince himself his life was just dandy?

I do wish we'd gotten more backstory on Dobby though -- he'd have been such a great source of infodumping based on his experiences in the Malfoy household. Wasted opportunity IMO...
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[identity profile] murderershair.livejournal.com 2012-04-06 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I always expected Dobby to talk about his experience some more, especially when Kreacher was introduced. Ah, well. That's what fanfic is for, I guess.

[identity profile] marshwiggledyke.livejournal.com 2012-04-06 02:41 am (UTC)(link)
It might be because Dobby came from THE MALFOYS.

Who are utterly shitty people, and care about little else during Dobby's stay with them beyond money, blood purity, and abusing Dobby.

Dobby might have internalized it in different ways- such as self-harm, but he might have gotten the idea that the luxurious mansion around him had to have come from SOMEWHERE, and that anywhere was better than where he was. Other house elves like Kreachur respond to kindness from his owners, which makes me think Kreachur had a better time of it than Dobby.

I also think it's a matter of the author- despite living at the Dursleys for as long as he can remember, Harry seems remarkably well-balanced as a person and internalized very little of the worthlessness the Dursleys have been trying to impress on him since he came to their house. He recognizes that although the wizarding world is a great unknown, it'd be better than being with the Dursleys- he fears expulsion most in the first few books, and when he thinks he's been expelled in POA for using wandless magic, he leaves with his trunk and owl immediately.

(Anonymous) 2012-04-06 02:46 am (UTC)(link)
All house-elves self-harm when they disobey an order. I don't think there's any psychological internalizing.

[identity profile] marshwiggledyke.livejournal.com 2012-04-06 06:35 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe it's a kind of widespread colonial mentality behavior?