[ SECRET POST #1925 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1925 ⌋

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Comments

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[amethyst-rei.livejournal.com]

I am against abortion. That said, I'm pro-choice. Always have been. The idea of abortion disturbs me, and using it as a form of birth-control disgusts me completely, but I've always understood that some people just don't share the same beliefs as me, and I respect that.

That said, I don't think it's okay to deceive people who are trying to help you. My stance on the life/choice debate doesn't matter. What matters is that the OP willingly lied to and took advantage of her friends, and that's what makes OP's decision wrong on so many levels. It's not the abortion that I'm fighting against, it's the means she chose to procure it.

What she did was wrong. Completely wrong. She used her friend's money, and the very least she could have done was be honest with them about where the money was going to.

People in this thread are fighting for pro-choice but that's not what this is about at all.

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[(Anonymous)]

You say the OP should have been honest about where the money was going, but if they were and then they didn't raise enough (not to mention the harassment I'm sure they'd receive - and hell people get scary on the internet and occasionally hunt down peoples home address) then where would they be?

You don't have forever to raise that money.

The real problem is that the OP lives somewhere where they don't have free abortions. Which means that people without the money to pay for abortions don't actually have the same ability to chose as those who do.

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[(Anonymous)]

Things sucking doesn't justify out-right lying to people who care about the OP. She is a shitty person to take advantage of them.

She doesn't have to be 100% up-front about it, but she doesn't have to lie either.

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[(Anonymous)]

yes, yes it does. When women get harassed and doctors get murdered for providing abortions, lying to get one safely is totally justified.

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[(Anonymous)]

Nope, not when no information has to be given. "I need money immediately for a personal problem" not lying nor opening herself to harassment.

Lying was not justified.

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[(Anonymous)]

Because "I need money immediately for a personal problem but I'm not going to tell you want it is" would have raised how much do you think?

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[(Anonymous)]

No less than saying your computer is broken.

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[(Anonymous)]

I seriously doubt that.

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[(Anonymous)]

Oh shut the fuck up insanenoodlyguy

You have no stake in this

Go the fuck away

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[amethyst-rei.livejournal.com]

And that's sad, sure. Still doesn't justify deceiving your friends, or obtaining donations given under false pretenses.

Like I stated above, I get that the OP was desperate. She got herself into a cruddy situation and chose to lie to her friends to get money. It happens. But to say that what she did was "alright" for whatever reason is so wrong, and that's the end of it.

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[(Anonymous)]

Stop saying "she got herself".

Jesus Christ you know absolutely nothing about how the OP became pregnant. It could have been rape, the birth control could have failed, you have no idea.

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[(Anonymous)]

Stop saying "she got herself".

i didn't read it that way so maybe p didn't either, i think they just rephrased it wrong probably.....maybe like >what a mess youu got yourself into< does not always cast blame on the person but a figur of speech.....

but i agree with both of you.....

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[(Anonymous)]

I'm with you on the rape possibility, but "if the birth control failed," then, yes, they got themselves into a situation. Because BC is known to do that from time to time, making pregnancy an inherent risk of sex between two people with functioning reproductive systems.

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[(Anonymous)]

Do you realize that you are basically saying that it's wrong for poor women to have consensual sex if they don't have resources available for an abortion when they have sex? Does it really not occur to you how fucked up that is?

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[(Anonymous)]

You do realize one can have sex, without any form of birth control, and have ti be 100% pregnancy proof? Just not penis in vagina, but there are certainly other kinds of sex.