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fandomsecrets2012-05-09 06:37 pm
case) wrote in fandomsecrets2012-05-09 06:37 pm
[ SECRET POST #1954 ]
⌈ Secret Post #1954 ⌋
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I am one of those people who would be skeeved out beyond belief if I found out someone thought of RPing with me as having sex with me rather than writing a story together, or me getting them off, rather than writing a story together, particularly given the amount of time I spend on characterisation.
But I've had the experience of finding out that I was RPing with someone underage--and had been for quite some time--and it was a total freakout. Who wouldn't be concerned about at least the legalities there?
However, I think it's weird and gross to view reading someone else's story or talking about that story, even with them, as a personal sexual interaction. I have no comprehension whatsoever about how somebody reading your fic and leaving a normal comment (not a gross one like "I fapped to this and it was AWESOME" but rather something like "Wow, I never thought I could believe in a story where Tavros dominates anyone, but somehow you managed to do it and stay IC, good job!") is a sexual interaction between you and them.
Fic IS published work. Once it's out there, you have absolutely no control over who reads it and what they choose to do with it. If you want to know about and control who reads your stuff, you need to lock it in your journal, because strangers are under no obligation to tell you who they are before they read things that are publicly posted on the internet or use whatever methods of communication are available to them to communicate their thoughts to you.
I totally get that there are people who still feel that these are personal sexual interactions. But what I don't get is how they think they can wish these very basic facts about the nature of public internet posts out of existence. It doesn't matter how you feel, if you don't lock your stuff up where you have control over who sees it, any stranger with an AO3 account or whatever can read it.
Also, I have little sympathy for this point of view, because at least you can age-rate your shit and tell yourself that nobody underage is reading. Unfortunately I have NO WAY to protect my personal boundaries around dealing with people who think this way. I don't want to have sexual interactions with strangers but there's no way to code a filter or rating for that and I have no control over whether people who do feel that way leave gross comments about what they did after they read it. I put up with it, because it's the nature of the internet and my choice is to accept it or not post. That is the same choice you have, except I don't get to click a rating button and lie to myself about having another option.
What bothers me the most is that the people who claim to feel that way are often all over the anonymous kink memes. If you view exchanging stories as a personal sexual interaction, why the fuck are you doing it in a public forum that is deliberately anonymous and then bitching because you might be doing it with someone underage and not know? If you went into a public bathroom and knelt in front of a glory hole, there'd be nothing stopping a 16 year old from sticking his dick through. If it's a personal sexual interaction and you choose to have personal sexual interactions with complete strangers, then you have to accept the risks of that behaviour. I get that anonmemes are satisfying in that you get to ask for stuff you want to read and people write it--and that you don't have to admit to what you want or admit that you are willing to write X thing. But when I fill prompts it's because the idea of the character doing this thing has inspired me, not because I want to get a stranger off, and it's about the characters and the story, not me.
I wouldn't have anonymous sex with strangers and if I thought of writing as sex...
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Yes, I can understand the RP side of things (i just never mentioned that as i focusing on fic, though i know of friends who RP'd sex scenes when they were under 18), but people getting skeeved out over the reading of fic is what's making me side eye the majority of people here.
As I mentioned before, should authors like Stephen King, R.L.Stein, Thomas Harris, etc be held accountable and be viewed as sex offenders because a 11-13 year old me just HAPPENED to be reading their books at the time? That's absurd, isn't it?
It's the same with fanfic writers. It gets published, it's out there for public consumption, unless you're THAT weirded out by strangers reading your fic that you f-lock it for only you and your friends (and said friends can range in age on an LJ f-list unless you've REALLY done some leg work to ONLY include school/actual IRL close friends). In which case.....why post it? Why not just send a copy to a friend to look over and that's that?
Makes no lick of sense to me.
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I wouldn't hold any of those people accountable, then or now.