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(Anonymous) 2012-05-11 01:03 am (UTC)(link)"...it's overly reductive to for example suggest that all cultures express violence to the same level, or in the same ways."
Yeah, I'd absolutely agree with you on this. Asian cultures (in the most general sense) really would be less likely to express violence on a regular level or have it be shown in the same way that White cultures do. There's a lot less tolerance for ANY expression of those kinds of things in communities at large -- violence and being able to fight is one thing, knowing how to fight is fine, but being CAUGHT fighting or being seen fighting is entirely another.
I'd think you're right when you say that or when you think that as a White guy you're far less likely to be threatened by Asian thugs and that they probably wouldn't be an issue for you. But that links a lot to what you said about violence. It's less obvious or overt, and oftentimes you won't find people fighting for the sake of fighting, and the expression of violence is rarely a casual thing or seen as normal in any sense.
The thing is, I'd... actually venture to say that there really is more to it than simply 'less violence in Asian communities'. It'd be more accurate to say 'less violence against people who aren't from their community and a LOT less acknowledgment or talking about violence'. I'm certainly not saying that Asian communities express violence the same way that White communities do; but to say that it's any more or any less... that would depend, and the question to ask here would be 'who exactly is violence being expressed AGAINST', and one of the answers -- I say one of, because it's really a bit of a multi-faceted issue -- would be 'not really people like you'.
It's like -- someone in your position, looking as you do (tall, fairly capable of handling himself, authority), you're... really a lot less likely to be privy to a lot of violence that might be happening in Asian communities. Thugs, gangs, things like that, because of the way societies in Asia tend to view violence, things like that are often sort of ignored, pushed to the side, or just plain not talked about or mentioned. If they happen, it's a community issue. Unless you're IN the community or part of it, it... really isn't as likely to show.
And as for getting into communities or gaining access of any sort, or getting people to talk about these issues in a specific way, that's extremely hard. Even for me -- I might be Asian but put me in New York and ask me to talk about the exact nature of the Chinese community there and I'd be at a loss, there are a lot of cultural markers which I simply wouldn't have or wouldn't know about. Sure, I'm technically the same ethnicity as they are, but to them I'd be a total outsider, and you can bet that most people there who are Chinese would just sort of NOT let me know if things like that are ongoing. Of course, I know they are, and they know I know things like that probably happen, but none of us would be likely to speak on it. It's really impolite, also kind of embarrassing.
Other than that... I think techno did cover most of the other points I'd have made. Hope this explained things a little, as well. Sorry if I'm going in circles a bit, it's still pretty early here.