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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-05-14 06:50 pm

[ SECRET POST #1959 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1959 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2012-05-16 09:31 am (UTC)(link)
Still I wonder why it's so hard for people to understand the ToS thing. Explicit porn isnt allowed on that site.

OP wasn't even initially reporting the guy for the porn.

[identity profile] kryss-labryn.livejournal.com 2012-05-16 09:01 pm (UTC)(link)
True, but "explicit" seems to have varying meanings there. :/ No depictions of actual penetration, as I understand it, but then, dicks are allowed all over the place; yet Pika la Cinique's lovely and tasteful "Poison Peach Redux (http://s3.roosterteeth.com/images/CovertLady8348a78d5d14fc6.jpg)" which didn't bloody well show anything explicit at all got taken down from dA (http://pika-la-cynique.deviantart.com/journal/Huh-253291092) after a complaint of it being too "explicit". And not only was it not explicit, it was very beautifully done.

So my feelings on the matter are pretty much that so far as "explicit" goes there, unless it's something like kiddie porn I would just roll my eyes and hit the back button.

OP wasn't even initially reporting the guy for the porn.

Long story short is I informed someone on DevArt that they're breaking ToS because half their gallery is explicit porn. They responded with a comment that I would do well not to speak to them anymore because they're good with computers, I've been warned, etc. (Link (http://fandomsecrets.livejournal.com/889666.html?thread=546234434#t546234434))

Okay, yeah, it's against the ToS but then so are songfics on ff.net, lol. And poems. And I still see a tonne of them. But while I follow the ToS myself, I'm really not going to bother telling the host about it unless it's actually illegal: i.e. hateful (anti-Semetic/homophobic etc) or unless someone's work is being plagarized, stuff like that.

--Mind you, if your gallery IS full of ToS-violating explicit porn, and dA has reason to look at your gallery/account, expect them to deal with it. One of the main reasons I do follow ToS's (besides trying to not be a jerk) is so that my stuff/account doesn't get deleted.

But what bothers me may not bother others, and what bothers others I may not blink an eye at. It's all relative (see for example (http://www.stamfordmercury.co.uk/news/local/stamford-couple-forced-to-hide-michelangelo-s-david-behind-bush-after-complaints-1-2805476) some people who got a small replica of Michelangelo's David moved off their neighbour's lawn because they found ot offensive *eyeroll*). So unless something actually illegal is going on I just don't care, myself, if someone else is posting it. I'm not the ToS police. ;-)
Edited 2012-05-16 21:03 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2012-05-17 02:14 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure what you're getting at when you quoted me and then the OP directly under it. They did not initially report the guy for the porn. They INFORMED the person that it was ToS breaking. They didn't report until the guy tried to harass and track them. You see, sometimes people actually inform others that they're breaking the ToS as a means to prevent them getting into trouble before an admin spots it.

And yes, DA flip-flops on this stuff a lot, but you're right. Actually showing penetration is reason for something to get removed. When OP refers to explicit porn, it's generally taken to refer to that sort of thing. Actual porn.

Are you seriously trying to compare DA and FF.net? Clearly FF.net has very shoddy moderation, everyone knows that. DA is different. Things work differently there and the mods/admins actually do do their jobs (sometimes not to everyones liking, but that's a different complaint).

"ToS police", oh wow. You realize DA kind of depends on its own users to look out for these things because it's so huge and they have a relatively small team to deal with it right?