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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-05-17 06:47 pm

[ SECRET POST #1962 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1962 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Ferris Bueller's Day Off]


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03.
[Community]


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04.
[Big Time Rush]


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05.
[Avengers]


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06.
[The Decemberists]


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[Tim Minchin]


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08.
[The Lizzie Bennet Diaries]


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[Community]


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[The Hunger Games]


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11.
[Nell: The Day Before]


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12.
[Devil Survivor]


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13.
[Homeland]


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[Pippin]


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15.
[Portal 2 & Left 4 Dead]


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[The Avengers, 30 Rock, Psych]


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[FFX]


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[Mad Men]


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[Legend of Korra]


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20.
[Faust: Love of the Damned]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 01 pages, 020 secrets from Secret Submission Post #280.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2012-05-17 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I've seen a lot on dA to be fair.

It's just people who say they have trouble choosing the right skin tones. Or people who are defending themselves by saying they were inserting their blonde OC into Korra's outfit and hair do. On tumblr somewhere there's a good swatch of Korra's many skin tones though. It should prove good to the people who blame the light that comes from firebending on their whitewashing.

(Anonymous) 2012-05-17 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
That's assuming that the artists screwing things up actually have the skill to do lighting effects correctly, though, and I'm not sure that's always safe to assume. A lot of people have never gotten past the stage of "more light=shift everything further towards #FFFFFF".

[identity profile] drunken-clowns.livejournal.com 2012-05-18 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
Not even going to touch blonde Korra, but I actually believe the people who said they fucked up picking colors. I've accidentally done that a lot, picking colors for midtones that looked really washed out once the highlights went on. I've heard that different monitors can also make something look lighter or darker, too- not really sure about that one, but it seems plausible.

Art mistakes can definitely happen though. If somebody does get a character's skin tone completely wrong, that's definitely a case for concrit, but I don't really understand why you're assuming it's just an excuse.

If you have a link to that tumblr post, would you mind sharing? I agree that if more people saw that, this whole mess would come up way less often.

[identity profile] insanenoodlyguy.livejournal.com 2012-05-18 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
Actually, somebody did that with one of the pictures that had the controversy... looked it at on too different moniters, and sure enough, on one she looked pale as shit and the other she looked just like she did in the show...

Of course, I only have one monitor so it's all hearsay. But monitor contrast is a real thing...

[identity profile] kikkyo.livejournal.com 2012-05-18 01:30 am (UTC)(link)
It is. I'm not that person, but I've noticed a definite difference in color display on my desktop and laptop.

(Anonymous) 2012-05-18 03:30 pm (UTC)(link)
It is. I still struggle with my monitor but it tends to make everything look lighter than it should be so I probably won't have the "white washing" problem. My friend's screen is better. Our laptop is perfect. No matter how long I site messing with it I can't get it right. I just can't spend $200 on a program and hardware to calibrate it perfectly.

(Anonymous) 2012-05-18 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
Yep, tone can definitely change with monitors. A few years ago, I saw a piece of mine in a friend's computer and it looked much, much darker than it had looked in mine.

[identity profile] dinerstate.livejournal.com 2012-05-18 01:58 am (UTC)(link)
I have done this, and recently. I'm on a laptop with wonky colors to begin with, and then I have f.lux installed (it dims your display according to the time of day and is TOTALLY RECOMMENDED because you'll be surprised how useful it is). f.lux changes the colors of your display but if you've hard it for a while you get used to it and nothing looks weird so when you're doing color-sensitive work and forget to temporary disable it the colors you choose can end up being TOTALLY off.

[identity profile] hallo-katzchen.livejournal.com 2012-05-18 03:17 am (UTC)(link)
F.lux sounds awesome!

(Anonymous) 2012-05-20 03:38 pm (UTC)(link)
as someone who has had many a fanart screwed up because she forgot to turn f.lux off while colouring i can definitely agree it messes a bunch of stuff up!

[identity profile] xelestri.livejournal.com 2012-05-18 04:19 am (UTC)(link)
I drawer on a Cintiq, and when i look at my art o my actual monitor, it is much lighter than how it appears on the Cintiq screen when I'm drawing it, so yeah.

[identity profile] drunken-clowns.livejournal.com 2012-05-18 03:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, it looks like a lot of people have this problem, I didn't know.

Definitely makes me think that slightly-too-pale Korra should be approached like it's an accident, since it sounds like there are a lot of ways for that kind of thing to really be an accident. I think people's responses are what shows whether they're really thinking Korra should be whiter, or whether they actually did just get the coloring wrong by mistake.

[identity profile] kikkyo.livejournal.com 2012-05-18 10:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Agreed. But then if the artist only has their monitor to judge from, they may not even know they colored it wrong to begin with. They may be looking at a work where Korra looks exactly the same shade on their screen as she does on the show, yet they're being viciously attacked and called racist. I mean, if they don't know they made a mistake because they can't see it for themselves, then they can't admit to the mistake; all they can do is apologize for how it was perceived by others and attempt to defend themselves.

In the end, I think it's something that people just should be more aware of, and not be as easy to jump to conclusions over. It's not fair to dogpile and harass a fan artist for a difference in coloring/potential racial identity that's minor enough that it could have been caused by the color calibration in that person's monitor.

[identity profile] drunken-clowns.livejournal.com 2012-05-19 05:15 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I think if you're going to try to take on Korra fanart that looks too light to you (and that looks different from how show-Korra looks on your screen) you should be aware of monitor differences being a thing that happens. Maybe let the people you're talking to about it in on that fact too. Suggest fanartists double check their Korra pictures against a show-Korra on their own screens if their Korras are turning out consistently too light. (I'm assuming that if a show-Korra and a fanart-Korra match on one screen, they'll match on another? Correct me if I'm wrong, please!)

It's sounding more and more like "dogpile first, ask questions later" is just a terrible strategy for this entirely.

(Anonymous) 2012-05-19 01:06 pm (UTC)(link)
It's sounding more and more like "dogpile first, ask questions later" is just a terrible strategy for this entirely.

Seconding this super hard.