[ SECRET POST #1963 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1963 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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17. [TRIGGER WARNING for suicide]

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19. [TRIGGER WARNING for abuse/rape? I think. better safe anyway]

[Rihanna, Man Down]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #280.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[punkpinkpower.livejournal.com]

Well, a great place to start delving into the ideas of "why" for feminism and women is the film Miss Representation. It talks about the way media treats sexuality, pretty interesting.

To summarize, though, feminism operates on the idea that Patriarchy, the societal structure which many cultures use in which men are considered the highest form of authority, is flawed. Indeed, Patriarchy only values women as child bearers, and for many years has given men (notably white upper-middle class men) a superiority complex.

So the Feminist movement of the 70’s and 80’s in America was really all about breaking away from Patriarchy, with women leaving their homes, breaking gender roles, and acknowledging a lot of the problems with the way society treated women. A lot of issues were addressed.

But. The people governing the nation at that time were terrified of the feminist movement because they believed that bringing down patriarchy would be, essentially, the end of the world. So a huge, well funded, mass media campaign began to demonize women and feminists, and is still in effect today.

That’s feminism in the USA, mind you, and not everywhere else. Each country has their own feminist issues, and some are better than others, but I’m only well versed enough to spout this out on American history.

So, the fear of feminism or feminists was completely produced by the media, in an irrational way. Traditional gender roles were re-introduced through toys and marketing strategies, and this generation of women hears nothing about any of the women’s movement’s until college, and, as you mentioned, maybe not even then. At most, they get one line in a text book that says “Women *were given* the vote”, which both disempowers women and patronizes them.

Feminism is not all that radical of a belief structure, but many young people believe it is. These misconceptions were the intended outcome of the conservative counter reaction to the feminist movement. Changing that picture is always difficult.

[cloudsinvenice]

Thanks for this. I knew there was a backlash against feminism (or rather, their perception thereof) by many younger people, but I hadn't realised that it was so much the product of a conservative media and culture actively trying to reinforce traditional female roles and make feminism look unpalatable in comparison. I know you're just talking about the US, but it would be interesting to know if it was also true in other places (I'm in the UK myself)... wouldn't surprise me at all.

Heck, right now we've got a government banging on about the Big Society (translation: women should simultaneously get the hell out and work instead of staying home to raise kids, AND take on caring roles so the government can justify impoverishing elderly and disabled people), and an alarming resurgence of the "abortion is eeevil and abortion providers are sinister in their attempts to lure women into aborting!"

So I guess we're there after all. :/

[punkpinkpower.livejournal.com]

Well, one of my favorite feminist theorists Kate Millett talks about patriarchy in the sense that any time it's threatened ANYWHERE there will be a backlash against what theatens it. So since many places around the world are governed by patriarchy, including the UK, Canada, most countries in the middle east, and so on, there have been movements that have been both unsuccessful and successful at breaking down some barriers. Look at the women in Saudi Arabi fighting for their right to a drivers license. Or the women protestors in egypt who were tortured and raped by the new government for being protestors, and who spoke out about it despite the social and cultural consequences of doing so. Anywhere patriachy is, you can find women who try to change it and people who try to silence them. It's just the way patriarchy works. I think there is only one surviving matriarchal clan in the world now, but I'm not sure where it is.

The point is that yes, feminism happens everywhere at different times and beats, but with so many women around the world having their rights theatened it's not wonder we're seeing a huge resurgence of people speaking out, but also huge support for those people threatening the rights.

[spicandspan89.livejournal.com]

Thanks for this. I think I will check out that film you mentioned; it sounds fascinating.

It's so interesting... feminism is supposed to be about equal rights, not about women being better than men. TPTB always seem to have these irrational fears that any social change will automatically mean the breakdown of all social norms (gasp!), and presumably, total anarchy. Perhaps what they're really fearing is a loss of power.