[ SECRET POST #1976 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1976 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

01.
[Ivanhoe]


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02.
[NHL: Chicago Blackhawks]


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03.
[Being Human US]


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04.
[Thor]


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05.
[Glee]


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06.
[azealia banks ft lazy jay]


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07.
[DBSK]


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08.
[Stand By Me]


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09.
[Glee/Game of Thrones]


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10.
[Torchwood]


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11.
[Avengers, Loki]


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12.
[Game of Thrones]


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13.
[Sakamichi no Apollon/Sex Pistols]


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14.
[The Neverending Story]


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15.
[Grey Is]


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16.
[Game of Thrones]


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17.
[Keane]


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18.
[Drive]


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19.
[Dallas]


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20.
[Lisa Eldridge]


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Notes:

Moving to Dreamwidth on June 2nd. Official announcement here for anyone who missed it!

In addition, Community Rec meme over on DW! A bunch of recs have already been left there, maybe you'll find an interesting comm. Or go promote yours!

Secrets Left to Post: 01 pages, 022 secrets from Secret Submission Post #282.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 2 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Thor was older. He should've been the heir by default. There's no logical reason for Odin to pretend otherwise and turn it into a competition. That's just INVITING unneccessary rivalry.

[(Anonymous)]

So what would you rather Odin say?

Loki: When I'm king-
Odin: Whoa whoa whoa! Hold your Sleipnirs! You ain't never gonna be king! Thor here's the heir by default. Don't worry. As Brother of the King you can still be...*thinks*...the Royal Gardner! Or how bout the Royal Fortune Teller? Eh? Eh?
Loki: *SMH*

I mean, there's pretty much not a nice way to put "you are never going to be king, barring a strange and unforeseen series of events." But at least with the way Odin put it, though only one of them can have the throne they are still considered equals.

(I also don't think that it turned into a rivalry, at least not for the throne, because I really don't think Loki ever wanted to be king. But that's just my interpretation of him, judging from his words and actions.)

[kathkin.livejournal.com]

Not necessarily, actually - not all monarchies work by primogeniture. In a lot of earlier monarchies (i.e. pre-high medieval period) the heir could be chosen according to who the reigning monarch thought would do the best job.

According to wikipedia, primogeniture in its modern form developed from the feudal system, so if Asgard is not and has never been a feudal state, a system wherein the king chooses whichever of his sons he thinks is best? Not terribly pleasant but also not implausible and not impractical as the eldest is not necessarily going to be the best ruler purely by virtue of being the eldest.

[(Anonymous)]

nayrt

NGL, I sort of figured that they went primogeniture by default of having a stereotypical "kingdom" setup. Since they never really talked about how succession in Asgard actually worked, I thought it was a fair assumption.

It would have been nice if they clarified that, though.

[kathkin.livejournal.com]

Yeah, it's a fair assumption given that it's the default now (pretty sure all european monarchies work by primogeniture and they are the ones most people are familiar with) so if they did intend to go with a different kind of succession they should have made it clear. And if they didn't then either they don't get how primogeniture works or wow that was a dick move on Odin's part.

[lovelycudy.livejournal.com]

I assumed that Asgard was a "chose the better candidate" kind of kingdom, which is why I thought Loki was so pissed at Thor, whom he deemed unworthy of the throne (and he was, until he had his change of heart and everything), being chosen. And I thouht that was related with the fact that Loki's talents were kind of "second-class" compared to Thor's. I was recently told that the Norse considered magic a female occupation, which makes sense.