[ SECRET POST #1985 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1985 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I think this is one of those things where we need to be aware of the real-world lens through which we view the fictional one. Even if it's not important in her world, it's good to note that Korra is a character with a noticeable melanin level. We don't have enough lead characters like that as it is, and too many people are 'colorblind' to the point of paling characters like her up until what they're doing is pointed out to them. Korra in her world is just a person and that's grand. As a fictional construct she's a lead character of color and that's great too.

[(Anonymous)]

That's the distinction people below in the thread want to make. CoC vs PoC.

[truxillogical]

Why isn't there a like button for this comment?

[(Anonymous)]

Yes exactly. In-universe, she has no POC-ness about her because she's not a minority, but she's a character created by real people in the real world who do live in a white-dominated culture. So just as long as the distinction remains clear, referring to her as a POC does work when talking about her as a character from an out-of-universe perspective.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think that's a good argument because it rationalizes Americans using African-American for people who do not live in the United States. While African-American is the most politically correct term for Americans, this usage is considered ignorant by non-Americans if it is not also considered offensive and marginalizing. It makes sense from an American standpoint to use African-American because the term is more PC than black, which can be considered rude. It makes no sense from anyone elses. It would be better, therefore, to use a term that makes sense and has actual meaning in the context of the person it describes.

[(Anonymous)]

But Korra is not a PERSON. She is a character. She has two contexts, her own fictional one and ours where she's something a little different from the usual lead character in western media.

[(Anonymous)]

To be frank, I think it would be more honest for people to just say they want more characters who aren't white. Some people say that 'non-white' is normalizing 'white', but frankly I think it's just honest when you're making the dichotomy between people who are white and people who are not. It's the same as if you wanted to refer to something specific to black people. You would use 'black' and 'non-black'.

Or just, like, say you want more representation of minority groups, which is more inclusive of groups who might technically parse as white, but are still underrepresented or badly presented in the media (ie. Romani). Or if you have a particular group in mind, be specific. "I'd like to see more black characters", "It'd be nice to have more well-written Aboriginal characters".

Or like, with Korra, it's pretty much just "It's nice to see more dark-skinned characters!"/"It's nice to see a main character who isn't white." because frankly, she doesn't match up to any particular race on Earth. She's Water Tribe. They have some similarities to Inuit people, but they're not Inuit anymore than an Avatar-verse penguin is an Earth penguin.

Also, it's kind of weird that everyone is jumping over Korra for being zOMG! POC protagonist! when by all accounts, Aang is presumably an Asian analogue race, but I never saw much of a fuss kicked up about his POC-ness. Which really makes it just about the particular shade of Korra's skin, rather than her status as a non-white character/POC, doesn't it?

I say this as a person who thinks there should be more representation of various ethnic minorities in the media.

[(Anonymous)]

FWIW and a little OT: the Romani I know (I'm American but have spent a lot of time in the Balkans) would not be likely to be viewed as white. I mean, I don't know all the Romani people in the world, but as an ethnic group they are descended from migrants from the Indian subcontinent and they generally look like it. For instance, based on the flag behind her, this is a Bulgarian Roma woman: http://www.preda.org/en/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/International-Roma-Day.jpg

But on the few occasions I've seen Romani people in the American media, they ARE portrayed as white. It's kind of...weird, to say the least.

[(Anonymous)]

who might technically parse as white, but are still underrepresented or badly presented in the media (ie. Romani).

In what universe do you live in? Nobody considers Romani white. We do not do so ourselves, and the rest of the world doesn't, either.

I kinda want to live in yours. In mine, this shit prevents me from getting most jobs in the country I live in, just for skin color.

but I never saw much of a fuss kicked up about his POC-ness

Because asian main characters are far more common due to anime, I'd wager.