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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-06-09 03:38 pm

[ SECRET POST #1985 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1985 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2012-06-10 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
Re: your first point. If they're not oppressed and a minority then why are we bothering to differentiate between people "of color" and people "not of color"? The whole point of separating white from non-white is to highlight white privilege and the people who don't have it, in areas where white privilege exists which is a lot of America/Europe. Except white privilege doesn't apply where white people are not the privileged ones like in Asia/S. America, or plain don't exist like in fantasy worlds like Korra. That is why broad use of the term PoC to apply to every situation involving a person who isn't white is inaccurate at best and offensive at worst.

Re: your second point. As people said above, character of color =/= person of color, and carries very different implications.
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[personal profile] streetcake 2012-06-10 01:22 am (UTC)(link)
I really don't understand this. I've seen lots of people with Inuit and Asian and other non-white backgrounds call Korra a PoC with their definition of person of color being someone who isn't white, because like you said, in America whites are the privileged race. Are they being offensive by not respecting a fictional universe in which nobody's white, despite that in reality they are part of a marginalized group?

Does someone need to go to these Asian/Inuit/black/brown people and correct them on how they choose to describe someone who in this reality would be considered a minority like them?

(Anonymous) 2012-06-10 01:45 am (UTC)(link)
Korra is not set in America. While Inuit and Asian people in America would be POC, not all Asians worldwide are POC. Asians in Korra's world would not be POC if everyone is Asian just like Naruto is not a POC because everyone is Asian.

Korra is, however, a western animation being created in a white-dominant culture. She is perceived to be a -character- of color by a majority of her audience because the context from which we, the audience, view her sees white as the default race. This doesn't mean she is inherently a POC in her native world, as her world simply isn't built like that. Nor would she consider herself a POC, because she has no "white" default to compare herself to.

If you call anybody who happens to non-white a POC, you are dismissing the reason the term "POC" needed to be created in the first place: for use specific to nations with a white default and white dominant race wherein POC are the "other." If oppression was not a key factor, again, why differentiate between "white" and "other" at all? What other difference is there, that the "others" share? If everyone was equal why not simply "people?" You are not a POC if you are the default race for where you live and have all of the "white privileges" that white people get in white default nations. There is no need to distinguish those people from white people in terms of power and privilege because they have all of them.
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[personal profile] streetcake 2012-06-10 02:35 am (UTC)(link)
Go tell that to the poc who abuse that word then. Apparently they're doing it wrong and have no idea what they're talking about.

(Anonymous) 2012-06-10 02:52 am (UTC)(link)
What do you think several people in this thread are trying to do? Some of us are POC as well.

(Anonymous) 2012-06-10 03:47 am (UTC)(link)
That's what several of us have been trying to do. We don't all feel the same way about it, no matter how much people want to throw us all under the same blanket with their shitty 'you're not a person, you're a person of color' attitude that they keep showing again and again in threads like this.