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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-06-29 06:43 pm

[ SECRET POST #2005 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2005 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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08. http://i.imgur.com/H1X1Z.gif
[linked because uh not sure if this is porn or not; live action]


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09. http://i.imgur.com/pNcu1.jpg
[porn of the drawn variety - Tintin]


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11. [SPOILER WARNING for Hourou Musuko]



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12. [SPOILER WARNING for Prometheus]



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13. [SPOILER WARNING for Homestuck]



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14. [SPOILER WARNING for Avengers]



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17. [WARNING for ... pretty sure this has something to do with rape]



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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #286.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2012-06-30 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
You are correct. Some other people here are getting it wrong.

When a vampire is made, it's that person without a soul. So basically imagine a sociopathic you, but more then that, not just no conscience, but rather an actual urging to do bad things (namely, murder and feast upon the living). Your soul isn't just gone, it has been replaced with a demon, so your naturally inclined now to evil.

They showed us some interesting contrasts. For example, a psychopathic murderer was turned and was exactly the same only more thirsty now. By contrast, turn a pious nun (Drusilla) and you get a complete 180. There was little of the old her in what she became.

Spike (William) loved his mother, a kindly old woman. His first victim after becoming a vampire was her, with the intent of turning her. She came out cruel and vaguely incestuous, making his second act killing her for good in horror.

Interestingly, we see an alternate universe sunnydale, and vampire Willow, free of her own self-repression, was not only in charge, but realized her own bisexuality years before her human counterpart. (there's some debate on human willow due to what I frankly feel was some inconsistent writing, but vampire willow was definitely into both)

Spike was unique in that he felt grief over what he was, though we can assume he was motivated in part by self hatred more then anything. When he got his soul back, he went made for a while himself, suggesting it wasn't something he'd been able to process when still a vampire.

Angel's re-souling was considered a curse for a reason.

(Anonymous) 2012-06-30 04:14 am (UTC)(link)
who was the psychopath that was turned?
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2012-06-30 05:54 am (UTC)(link)
Zachary Kralik. Some villian of the day, used in a slayer test in the episode "helpless." it was specified he was a serial killer before he turned.

he also still had a psychological dependence on psychotropic medications, though being a vampire should have corrected any actual physical need for the drugs.

But basically, the eviler you were naturally, the less change you'd notice overall. One character was a psych major before he turned, (and went to high school with buffy, thus having them both freeze up in recognition mid fight) and, in a somewhat silly episode, actually talked it out a bit with Buffy, observing the changes in himself but, being what he was now, clinically observant rather then horrified or guilty.

Favorite exchange:

Webs: Oh, my God!
Buffy: Oh, your God, what?
Webs: Oh, well, you know, not my God, because I defy him and all of his works. Does he exist? Is there word on that, by the way?
Buffy: Nothing solid.
Edited 2012-06-30 06:10 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2012-06-30 10:21 am (UTC)(link)
But if you're a vampire, is it really evil if it's in your nature to be that way?
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2012-06-30 09:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, because if you are a vampire, you are by your nature an evil being. Evil is an objective thing in this world. Crosses and holy water burn vampires for a reason. There is evil, and good, and vampires are very nearly all in the former category, along with many other things.

A nice thing about fantasy worlds is sometimes morality can be that easy.