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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-06-29 06:43 pm

[ SECRET POST #2005 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2005 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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06. [nf]


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08. http://i.imgur.com/H1X1Z.gif
[linked because uh not sure if this is porn or not; live action]


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09. http://i.imgur.com/pNcu1.jpg
[porn of the drawn variety - Tintin]


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11. [SPOILER WARNING for Hourou Musuko]



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12. [SPOILER WARNING for Prometheus]



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13. [SPOILER WARNING for Homestuck]



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14. [SPOILER WARNING for Avengers]



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15. [SPOILER WARNING for Merlin]



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16. [SPOILER WARNING for Tangled]



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17. [WARNING for ... pretty sure this has something to do with rape]



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18. [WARNING for rape]



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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #286.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2012-06-30 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Well I wasn't... actually saying anything about "fucking ability", that was a joke. It would be out-of-character from what we see in the movie to see in a fic anyway and I don't give a shit about it, but that was what immediately occurred to me as a form of "exaggeration" that fandom people could possibly be engaging in.

I don't take any of it as proof, just that... if we're even entertaining the possibility of a computer being a person, what exactly can we definitively say are the traits it would have to display to show it is one and what disqualifies it from being one? Disobeying orders? The "stolid, dutiful butler" theme could cover that. He essentially is one, just invisible and with cool powers.

I'm not saying JARVIS is definitely sapient. Just that I don't know of anything I'd consider a huge exaggeration of his abilities, and his obedience may be an indicator that he's just a machine, but I see it as part of his personality as well. vOv Defining personhood as it applies to minor-character magical superhero AI systems isn't the most cut-and-dried of issues. I mean, at what point is it "mimicking intelligence" enough to actually maybe possess that intelligence?