[ SECRET POST #2007 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2007 ⌋

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Comments

[fenm]

My point is that "feminist" is actually specific -- it refers to being part of a movement, not just to the idea "that women are people," as one slogan puts it.

No, you've got it backwards. You don't have to be part of a "movement" to be a feminist.

[stainless]

On what authority do you tell me I have it backwards?

[stainless]

So a feminist is just "someone who believes something," then? Yes, I was being snarky, but I'd really like to know who decided that. And what people who do consider themselves part of the movement hope to gain from fellow "feminists" who never plan to do much of anything other than occasionally notice some sexist thing.

It seems like an insult to the people who actually did and continue to do real work, and a rather weird way of forcing a label on people.

If someone said she doesn't identify as a feminist but does identify as a womanist, would you say "Same diff, you are what I call you?"

[(Anonymous)]

No one "decided" it, that's just what the word means. No, literally. Look it up in the dictionary. It means you think men and women should be equal. All other definitions are purely contextual and dependent on individual interpretations.

[fenm]

So a feminist is just "someone who believes something," then?

Yes.

movement hope to gain from fellow "feminists" who never plan to do much of anything other than occasionally notice some sexist thing.

Why does that matter? Can't you just be a feminist, disabled-rights activist, etc, because you think it's the right thing to do, and not worry about what you're getting out of it from other people?

It seems like an insult to the people who actually did and continue to do real work

And who gets to decide what that is?

and a rather weird way of forcing a label on people.

And not letting anyone call themselves a feminist unless they do "real work" is better?

[stainless]

Who said I'm not "letting" anyone do anything? I said I'm leery of the idea that everyone's a feminist even if all they do is argue on the Internet. I never said that means they can't.

Seems to me the people who want to insist on a label applying are more interested in force than me.

[(Anonymous)]

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/feminism?s=t

How about the dictionary? Note how the organized movement with the capital letter Feminism is the secondary meaning.