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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-07-01 03:19 pm

[ SECRET POST #2007 ]


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(Anonymous) 2012-07-01 10:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Anyone on this planet, be it male, female, some other gender, or whatever this person is, should have the same right.

Except, when it comes to men vs. women, men are not really in danger of having fewer rights. Excluding trans men, who face their own set of persecutions, men have more rights than women everywhere in the world. So if you're concerned with being a "humanist," or whatever dumb shit people are calling it these days, then you're concerned with feminism. Sorry, but in general society, "oppressed men" is not a thing.

(Anonymous) 2012-07-01 10:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Right!

...unless the men in question are non-straight, non-white, disabled, poor, and so forth. You remembered the transmen, but all of the rest are not female exclusive areas and that anon was not only talking about gender.

(Anonymous) 2012-07-01 10:29 pm (UTC)(link)
NAYRT

I think they mean male privilege is not likely to become inverted and replaced with female privilege.

(Anonymous) 2012-07-01 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT

Which is exactly why I specifically said "when it comes to men vs. women." Also, non-straight, non-white, disabled, and poor are all things that can describe women as well. Those things are all problems and shouldn't be discounted, but in general society women are oppressed purely for being women and men are not (unless they're transgender). So it's a cop-out to say "I'm not feminist, I'm equalist/humanist/whatever!"

(Anonymous) 2012-07-02 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
those people are discriminated against for being non-straight, non-white, disabled, poor and so forth, NOT FOR BEING MEN.

there is a very important distinction there.

(Anonymous) 2012-07-02 02:53 am (UTC)(link)
That's what I was trying to say. You said it much better and more succinctly. =)
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[personal profile] fuchsiascreams 2012-07-02 06:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Like what? What rights do men have that women don't? I do not even know how to begin Googling this.

(Anonymous) 2012-07-02 09:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe try searching up feminism 101?
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[personal profile] fuchsiascreams 2012-07-06 06:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure that that's going to give me the results I want..

The only thing I can think of atm is that men have more access to birth control than women do, and the glass ceiling effect.