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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-07-01 03:19 pm

[ SECRET POST #2007 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2007 ⌋

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[personal profile] stainless 2012-07-02 04:16 pm (UTC)(link)
If they can tell me what they're doing and what measurable effect it has on the world around them, however small, I'm good with it. If they're run of the mill slacktivists, I'm not going to claim that isn't better than nothing, but I'm not gonna throw 'em any parties.

If they used to be really big in the movement until they took that second job, or the kids mean they had to cut down on whatever but they foo and bar when they can, that's different. It's the idea that values mean something intrinsically, completely divorced from action, that I find a bit sketchy nowadays.
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[personal profile] veronica_rich 2012-07-02 04:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure I agree that people have to prove on a scale that what they believe is making a measurable difference. I'm all for pointing out someone's negative or harmful-to-others behavior if they're acting like a bigot - especially if it's counter to what they call themselves - but if a woman who merely believes in feminism and doesn't act against those principles wants to call herself a feminist, I'm not going to judge her like this. Because chances are good she does little things that support feminist principles, like helping her daughter decide what college to go to or what AP classes to take; or loaning a friend or sister money for an abortion if that's what they want, or just finding a doctor to do it; or helping the same friend or sister with babysitting while they go do something for themselves, if they have kids they wanted; or correcting wrong assumptions in the workplace among co-workers who say or do something un-feminist. These are all important things to do, but they're so small individually, and not really "out there" as Big Gestures of Social Justice.

But, of course, you believe your thing and I'll believe mine at the end of the day.
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[personal profile] stainless 2012-07-02 04:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I get what you're saying and you make really good points. I just feel leery of slacktivists and think they muck things up. Chalk it up to my cynicism. :-)