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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-07-06 05:53 pm

[ SECRET POST #2012 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2012 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Infinity Blade II, Chaos Ring]


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05.
[Kushiel's Legacy, Avengers, Harry Potter, Star Trek]


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[America's next top Model]


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[Common Law]


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[MST3K ("Space Mutiny") and Final Fantasy VI]


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[the bachelorette]


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[Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon]


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11. [SPOILERS for Deus Ex: Human Revolution]



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12. [SPOILERS for Legend of Korra]



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13. [SPOILERS for Legend of Korra]



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14. [SPOILERS for Pandora Hearts]



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15. [SPOILERS for Merlin]



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16. [WARNING for suicide]

[Park Yong Ha]


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17. [WARNING for abuse]



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18. [WARNING for abuse]



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19. [WARNING for rape]



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20. [WARNING for incest]



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21. [WARNING for incest possibly (OP's request)]



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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #287.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

[personal profile] fscom 2012-07-06 09:56 pm (UTC)(link)
20. [WARNING for incest]
http://i49.tinypic.com/2ue03tz.jpg
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[personal profile] avatarmn 2012-07-06 10:07 pm (UTC)(link)
I used to be right there with the rest of society regarding incest, but I've slowly grown to having no problem with gay incest... except parent-child because of the power imbalance. But straight incest still revolts me as much as it ever did.
Edited 2012-07-06 22:08 (UTC)
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[identity profile] sandor051.livejournal.com 2012-07-06 10:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Wut.

This isn't you misunderstanding genetics is it.

Because the problem is only really in the power imbalance.
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[personal profile] avatarmn 2012-07-07 01:38 am (UTC)(link)
"Misunderstanding genetics"? All of my wut.
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2012-07-07 01:48 am (UTC)(link)
Freakbabies are, as the problems with it goes, actually one of the lesser problems.
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[personal profile] avatarmn 2012-07-07 01:58 am (UTC)(link)
Lesser compared to what? You mean the chances are greater that there will be social stigma? I think infant mortality and debilitating genetic disorders are a bit more devastating than the disapproval of others, in the less likely event that they happen.
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2012-07-07 02:13 am (UTC)(link)
The probably of a freak baby outside of sustained and perpetual failure to branch your family tree is unlikely. The probability of an unequal relationship that seriously messes up one or more parties is fairly high.
Edited 2012-07-07 06:08 (UTC)
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[personal profile] darkmanifest 2012-07-07 03:48 am (UTC)(link)
Lesser compared to rape and/or prolonged abuse over the course of decades, depending on when the incest begins. Inbreeding can be avoided with a prudent application of birth control, mental and emotional damage, not so much.
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2012-07-07 06:18 am (UTC)(link)
And that's got nothing to do with those involved being hetero or homosexual.
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[personal profile] wauwy 2012-07-07 10:55 am (UTC)(link)
The chances of those debilitating genetic disorders and stuff are actually not increased that much, even with brother-sister incest.

Over generations, maybe. Two random people, no.
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[identity profile] sandor051.livejournal.com 2012-07-07 04:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Yep.

And this never gets applied to any other relationship where there's an increase of genetic disorders.

The chance of having a flipper baby is equally increased in women having kids over thirty, from those with certain genetic histories, tight knit communities, etc.
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[personal profile] brooms 2012-07-06 10:18 pm (UTC)(link)
the actors look sf good together.

(Anonymous) 2012-07-06 10:29 pm (UTC)(link)
They are a great ship, just brilliantly written in canon and there are a lot of amazing fic writers out there. I don't even like either character much and I'm not particuarly invested in the ship, but I definitely see the appeal.

(Anonymous) 2012-07-07 02:46 am (UTC)(link)
OT, but I'm stalking this thread hoping for fic recs :)

*fingers crossed*
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[personal profile] helenadax 2012-07-06 10:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Incest in fiction never hurt anybody. And there's a lot of incest in fiction since the Greeks so you know, you're not the only one fascinated/interested in that kind of relationships.
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[personal profile] morieris 2012-07-06 10:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't mind incest between two consenting adults in fiction, and these two are pretty much my favorite pairing in the series because they're written so...great.

It's when people ship young sibling together beyond normal sibling love that bothers me. At least adults have sorted out their feelings and are less hormonal, you know?

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[personal profile] habilelapin 2012-07-06 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree with the point about consenting adults in fiction. I personally find these two sickening together. Maybe it's because I have so many siblings, and I just have that instant revulsion at the very idea. (Because seriously, ew) They definitely have an interesting power dynamic though.

Younger siblings though, that's just a great big "No" for me. It's too much. When Cersei talks about how they screwed around together as kids, I'm just like "Oh god, no, just no"
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[personal profile] sarnath 2012-07-06 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
It's just fiction, OP. No need to feel guilty!

OP

(Anonymous) 2012-07-07 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
The issue for me is that my mother was molested by her brother when she was a child. So there is incest in my family. Not consensual incest like this, but still incest (and sibling incest at that). I feel guilty not because I think there is anything wrong with writing it or reading it, but because I don't think I personally should be turned on by it or enjoy reading about it as a non-unhealthy relationship.
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Re: OP

[personal profile] sarnath 2012-07-07 03:22 am (UTC)(link)
I think the important thing here really is the separation of fiction and reality. After all, it's a well-known phenomenon that people find things enjoyable in fiction that we find detestable in reality. Aristotle even says so in his Poetics, and it's over two thousand years old. It's not exactly a new thing!

There's also the fact that in fiction certain situations may work as symbols rather than, or as well as, the actual depicted events. As symbols (even subconsciously perceived) they can help us work through issues, or just have an outlet for an emotional need. Rape, for example, can (amongst a lot of other things) be a symbol of giving up control, for letting go of all responsibilities for a little while. It doesn't mean the reader actually wants to be raped.

But the most important thing I think you should remember is that these fictional characters aren't your family members. You're not imagining your family members doing these things.

(Anonymous) 2012-07-07 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
I am always squicked by incest, but damn if these two aren't hot together. It doesn't help the actor and actress are both so damn attractive.
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2012-07-07 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
While I'm squicked by incest pairing, objectively, I think they're both incredibly physically fetching people - so I'm not surprised/
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[personal profile] darkmanifest 2012-07-07 03:51 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah...that keeps happening to me when it comes to twins.
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[personal profile] wauwy 2012-07-07 10:53 am (UTC)(link)
Feeling guilty about your kinks is just a waste of time, IMO.