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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-07-09 06:41 pm

[ SECRET POST #2015 ]


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[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2012-07-10 01:48 am (UTC)(link)
I would hesitate to write a female character "as a guy and then genderswap" because gender is so much a part of one's identity. Also the whole idea that you would have to write the character as a guy first in order for them to be "awesome" is all kinds of problematic. A better strategy would be for you to read books, comics, watch tv shows/movies etc. with female characters that you find interesting (even a little) and think about why you like those characters and what is appealing about them. You can also do this with people you know in real life. Think about women or girls that you know personally that you find interesting (you don't have to even like them). This is a better strategy than just developing a male character, then genderswapping them.

(Anonymous) 2012-07-10 02:55 am (UTC)(link)
gender is so much a part of one's identity

In terms of writing an effective character, really nowhere near as much as you think.

(Anonymous) 2012-07-10 03:03 am (UTC)(link)
This.

(Anonymous) 2012-07-10 06:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, it can be. I don't really see why OP has such a hard time writing a female character, but hey, neither does he/she/ze.

Point is... Gender can be a major part of your life. Maybe it's not for you, but society can influence a lot in your traits and tastes, even in the way you think and perceive the world, solely based on your gender. Yeah, there's people who are not as affected as others, and men and women have pretty much the same kinds of flaws and qualities, but your gender can mean and change you a lot.

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[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2012-07-11 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
Depends on the story you're trying to make, the environment the character is in, etc, yeah

I mean gender identity was a HUUUUGE part of my life growing up and still is, so I can't really imagine writing a female character without addressing that. Society has different expectations for a woman than it does for a man and fiction needs to address that.
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[identity profile] kartos.livejournal.com 2012-07-10 03:57 am (UTC)(link)
"...because gender is so much a part of one's identity..."

This is society telling you what to think and say. Just remember, Aliens was written with not a single gender attributed to the characters, and the lead was female.
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[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2012-07-11 01:42 am (UTC)(link)
This is society telling you what to think and say.

Well... duh? I mean we don't live in a vacuum, neither do fictional characters.
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[identity profile] kartos.livejournal.com 2012-07-11 01:47 am (UTC)(link)
I guess learning to think for yourself is too hard.

OP

(Anonymous) 2012-07-10 04:47 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not actually developing a male character and genderswapping him. I'm going to try and think of her the way I think about my male characters for a while, to try and understand why I can't write her properly.
I do read plenty of stuff with great female characters, and my girlfriends are the best people I know. I just want to figure out how to translate this into my story. I'm hoping that by taking what I've already written, redoing it while thinking of her as a guy, and looking at the resulting differences, I'll be able to pinpoint some of my issues.