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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-07-10 06:14 pm

[ SECRET POST #2016 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2016 ⌋

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[personal profile] stainless 2012-07-10 11:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I thought that was part of the point - that Merida was trying to run from the realization that she did, in fact, make mistakes, and that she needed to face up to that to truly "mend the bond."
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[personal profile] morieris 2012-07-10 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah, this reminded me of what I had first wanted to comment - as wrong as that particular choice was by her, I feel like the narrative was soundly trying to punish Merida for not wanting to be married and that it gelled together poorly at the end.
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[personal profile] stainless 2012-07-11 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
As I understood it:

I don't think it was trying to punish her for not wanting to be married. I think her fault was dismissing her mother's whole set of values and way of living because there were some really shitty things in it that stifled women like Merida who didn't fit the paradigm like Elinor did. Instead of being mature enough to articulate what that meant and compromise, she went overboard.

Instead of being mature enough to understand Merida's personality and needs, Elinor went overboard in her own way too, becoming stiflingly controlling instead of thinking about ways to respect who Merida was either by interpreting the traditions in a different way or re-examining them.

Both of them were wrong and both of them were right. Merida was right about the marriage thing, and Elinor realized it.
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[personal profile] deadtree 2012-07-11 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
I agree, that seemed really clear to me-- she didn't want to have ANY responsibility, and the events that followed forced her to take some for her decisions. Thus, she grew up.
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[personal profile] stainless 2012-07-11 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah. She wanted Mom to admit she'd been wrong without admitting she hadn't been right either, so she kept talking about the witch's badness rather than taking responsibility for her actions. It took until the very end for her to realize that, or maybe just to be humble enough to admit it aloud.