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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-07-10 06:14 pm

[ SECRET POST #2016 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2016 ⌋

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[personal profile] iggy 2012-07-11 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
I think that if you're 'team either of them' or think either of them are really worse than the other, you've pretty much missed the point of the film entirely. Nothing wrong with having favorites, but I thought that the narrative successfully made it clear that neither 'side' was right.

So congrats on that.

(Anonymous) 2012-07-11 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
I thought that the narrative successfully made it clear that neither 'side' was right.

It did, but people are stupid.
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[personal profile] iggy 2012-07-11 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
I feel like people put some kind of mental block in at times that prevents them from fully empathizing with characters that are young teenagers (girls especially).

(Anonymous) 2012-07-11 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
Or maybe not all young teenage girls are like that?
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[personal profile] iggy 2012-07-11 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
Well yes obviously not all young teenage girls are identical. Just as not all mothers are like Elinor.

(Anonymous) 2012-07-11 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
"Hurr, you have a different opinion, you loser!"

(Anonymous) 2012-07-11 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
So I have to automatically agree with what the narrative is saying?
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[personal profile] iggy 2012-07-11 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
Reread my comment please.

(Anonymous) 2012-07-11 01:35 am (UTC)(link)
"I think that if you're 'team either of them' or think either of them are really worse than the other, you've pretty much missed the point of the film entirely. Nothing wrong with having favorites, but I thought that the narrative successfully made it clear that neither 'side' was right."

Yes?

(Anonymous) 2012-07-11 03:35 am (UTC)(link)
What, exactly, do you disagree with? Merida was wrong for what she did, yes, but she was right in that her mother didn't exactly listen to her, ever, and doesn't value her skills at all simply because they aren't what Elinor taught her and don't correspond with "being a Lady." However, they do turn out just as valuable as Elinor's skills in the end.

Part of being a parent, bud, is sometimes admitting you're wrong.

(Anonymous) 2012-07-11 05:33 am (UTC)(link)
I disagreed with the whole "If you don't agree with Y, you didn't really watch the movie properly" argument the OP was making

(Anonymous) 2012-07-11 09:47 am (UTC)(link)
Except you probably didn't. The entire point of the movie was that neither of them were entirely wrong, and things would be solved if they communicated and actually LISTENED to each other.

(Anonymous) 2012-07-11 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Except Elinor didn't poison her daughter.
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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2012-07-11 03:33 am (UTC)(link)
When you have a movie about parent-child relationships, it's highly unlikely that the narrative's direction will have as much sway when everyone has such different experiences of the expectations parents have put on them or expectations that they put on their own kids. Parenting simply isn't that the kind of monolith that a narrative can point to one aspect and have the same perceptions come out.