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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-07-13 06:43 pm

[ SECRET POST #2019 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2019 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Paradise Cove]


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04.
[Game of Thrones/ASOIAF]


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05. [repeat]


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06.
[I Capture the Castle]


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07.
[Charlie Bartlett/The West Wing]


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09.
[Saint Seiya]


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[To Aru Majutsu no Index]


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[Angels and Demons/ Ewan McGregor]


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[Tom Hiddleston]


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[Parasyte]


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16. http://www.abload.de/img/korra0il0k.gif
[animated porn; gif; slash; legend of korra]


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17. [SPOILERS for Once Upon a Time]



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18. [WARNING for eating disorders]

[Pretty Little Liars]


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19. [WARNING for rape]



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20. [WARNING for talk of dub/non-con, drugging, and parent-child incest]



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Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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[personal profile] stainless 2012-07-14 02:32 am (UTC)(link)
I most often use dub-con in a particular subset of case of "coercion" as defined in philosophy papers.

Coercion there means "Perpetrator wants victim to do A. Rather than simply forcing victim to A, perpetrator offers a false choice between A and B, where B is something worse than A, so perp is reasonably sure victim will A."

So something like "Have sex with me or I will detonate the bomb."

In real life, clearly "Yes, I will have sex with you!" in a case like that does not mean "This is consensual." So I would say I think most, if not all, dub-con in the real world is rape.

But I like the distinction in fic, because... I tend to write about a very twiated OTP that (as I write them) thinks nothing of threatening one another.

So "Fuck me or I'll do Awful Thing" is, in the FICTIONAL HEADCANON ABOUT CHARACTERS I'M WRITING A STORY ABOUT, about as common as "Hello." Therefore FOR THEM, IN THE FICTION, I don't see it as quite the same as I would if one of them suddenly used force.

Force would mean something had changed and taken a turn for the creepy/ier.

But it is a threat, and it's not necessarily obvious from context that the threat won't be carried out if the person chooses "Okay, set off the nuke. I'm callin' yer bluff."

Hence "dub-con."

I don't think there are many things I'd call "dubiously consensual" in real life, though, personally.
Edited 2012-07-14 02:33 (UTC)