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fandomsecrets2012-07-15 03:17 pm
case) wrote in fandomsecrets2012-07-15 03:17 pm
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Re: What's your job
Intelligence is largely genetic in fact (have a look here for a quick summary: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heritability_of_IQ).
I don't believe the system is "holding it back", I just do not believe that being able to parrot a test particularly proves intelligence. I do not believe intelligence per definition floats to the top, either.
And yes, obviously even an intelligent child could be fucked up to a degree they go feral - but I'm talking about people in relatively normal home situations.
I didn't say that everyone is intelligent - I said the potential for intelligence is not necessarily linked to a college degree. That is not the same thing.
And frankly I'm speaking from experience.
At the risk of getting shit for this: I've been a member of my local Mensa since age 16, and you honestly don't want to know how many college dropouts with 130+ IQ's there are. Hell, you don't want to know how many of them drop out in high school . Or how many ridiculously smart people work menial jobs like being being bus driver or a supermarket employee. And yes, these people have in fact been tested in ways you'd call "academic". A great number of them got de-motivated even before high school, some have learning disabilities or are in the autism spectrum which makes it difficult for them to function in full-time education or hold certain jobs.
Re: What's your job
(Anonymous) 2012-07-16 01:07 am (UTC)(link)I didn't say that everyone is intelligent - I said the potential for intelligence is not necessarily linked to a college degree. That is not the same thing.
And I am not saying potential for intelligence is intelligence. I'm saying that intelligence is linked to academia because that's the way it's tested. What you're saying is like claiming a centimetre isn't a centimetre, even though the ruler defines it as such. Academia is the ruler and this definitive "intelligence", by whatever name, is the result of that ruler.
A great number of them got de-motivated even before high school, some have learning disabilities or are in the autism spectrum which makes it difficult for them to function in full-time education or hold certain jobs.
As someone with a learning disability, I'd have no hesitation in saying they have been defined as unintelligent, as I define myself, according to the state. The state does not use IQ as a definition of intelligence, otherwise you wouldn't need degrees - you'd just need your IQ to apply for a job.
Re: What's your job
The state doesn't even hand out jobs (well, except government jobs) and there are still employers who value ability and resourcefulness over a degree.
You have defined yourself unintelligent based on your chosen criterion (i.e. getting a degree). That doesn't mean you are unintelligent - it just means you choose to believe that. I'm obviously not going to convince you here, but you basically made your own definition of intelligence and decided that you don't fit into it.
Anyway, best of luck either way.