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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-07-15 03:17 pm

[ SECRET POST #2021 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2021 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2012-07-16 03:37 am (UTC)(link)
Funny, "I hate you but maybe part of me doesn't" is my iron-clad squick. Seriously, fics that depict a good guy hating a evil despicable monster, but part of him doesn't because the author identifies with and stans the monster for some nonsensical or nonexistent reason and the good guy is OOC-ly depicted as being so disgustingly weak and pathetic that he actually falls for said monster and allows said monster to touch his body and the author treats this as something that is good and right are something that is guaranteed to make me almost hyperventilate with terror and fury. Even scrolling past a summary that implies this makes my heart start pounding nauseatingly.

Observing stuff like that in real life will do that to you, I guess.

(Anonymous) 2012-07-16 03:58 am (UTC)(link)
Yep, this trope is always pulled when the shipper stans/romanticizes the villain, and butchers the 'good guy's' characterization in the process. Why I'm not a big fan of Batman/Joker pairing either. Hits major squicks for me too. The good guy/villain pairing can be done right, but not in most of the fanfiction I've read
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[personal profile] stainless 2012-07-16 10:41 am (UTC)(link)
That's funny. I actually don't like Loki at all, and think he's one of the weakest characterized villains I've seen in many years.

I just think the conflict between him and Tony, being so similar on a superficial level and yet so profoundly different when it comes to the moral principles animating them, could make for a really interesting, twisted hatesmut story.

Not sure why that requires butchering Tony or redeeming Loki either.
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[personal profile] stainless 2012-07-16 10:37 am (UTC)(link)
Um... all right?

Not sure why the snark, though, or why the comment about "real life" at the end. You seem to be assuming that because I don't share your squicks I've never "observed stuff like that in real life," and that assumption is false.

After trauma, some people end up with serious squicks about certain kinds of dynamic or story. And that's totally fine. But some people don't. And when the people who do start sniping at the people who don't, I'm uncomfortable with that?

Why? Because it implies there's one true way to be a survivor, and if you don't handle your issues in one specific, approved manner, there's something wrong with you. And I'm not okay with that, not when the process of healing takes such a long time and is so deeply personal.

I understand why you're uncomfortable and I would never suggest you should read something that's going to reopen old wounds. Or even just something that's going to bother you deeply, even if you weren't also a survivor.

But sniping at other people for handling things differently is not on. We don't all end up with the same set of triggers, and even when we do, one person may handle that vastly different from another anyway.