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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-07-16 06:55 pm

[ SECRET POST #2022 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2022 ⌋

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 04 pages, 088 secrets from Secret Submission Post #289.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 2 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2012-07-17 02:43 am (UTC)(link)
DA

There's canon to support Steve and Sam being best friends, Steve and Tony, or Tony and Rhodey, depending on who's writing it and what time it's set in.
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[personal profile] luxshine 2012-07-17 03:10 am (UTC)(link)
I'm starting to assume that I missed a ton of Avengers comics where this supposed "Best friend" thing started. YEs, Tony and Steve are good friends, no one denies that. But the Best Friend place, the one that goes to hell and back for you and that you would die for... that's Rhodey for Tony and Sam for Steve.

(Anonymous) 2012-07-17 03:41 am (UTC)(link)
Tony said Steve was his best friend in one of the comic books. I forgot which one.
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[personal profile] intrigueing 2012-07-17 05:40 am (UTC)(link)
*shrugs* comic book characters vacillate between best friends like metronomes, depending on who's writing and whether the story in question is from a solo series or a crossover or a team book.

IMO, Steve and Tony are technically just as good friends as Steve and Sam and Tony and Rhodey in terms of how much they love each other, but Tony+Rhodey and Steve+Sam are friends first and foremost. Steve and Tony are teammates first, friends second.

(Okay, how did I not realize until right now that both Tony and Steve have black best friends who they are never shipped with?)

[personal profile] anonymouslyyours 2012-07-17 05:43 am (UTC)(link)
After the first Iron Man movie when fandom did not wet itself with Tony/Rhodey I admit I took that personal. Hard feelings are still had fandom, they are still had.
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[personal profile] intrigueing 2012-07-17 06:31 am (UTC)(link)
I hear you man. I'm not even a big slasher (friendship- and gen-fic is my fave), and even I was going "omg they're actually holding hands people are gonna go nuts over this!"

But nope. And they can't pull the "but they're such stable bffs there's no tension!" card on this particular pairing because it's full of bickering and annoyance and differences and disagreement and confusion and tension over massive changes. I'm sticking to the race card.

[personal profile] anonymouslyyours 2012-07-17 06:33 am (UTC)(link)
Plus there are way more platonic friends that fangirls will slash to hell and back. And in the case of some well known brothers they will do so literally.

(Anonymous) 2012-07-17 05:57 am (UTC)(link)
But the Best Friend place, the one that goes to hell and back for you and that you would die for... that's Rhodey for Tony and Sam for Steve.

Yeah, I think you must've missed a ton of them. Tony's died for Steve. Stopped his heart in Execute Program, breathed in deadly spores in Red Zone. He didn't think he'd make it out of either alive, and was explicitly in no personal danger both times until he took it on to save Steve. But honestly, they're superheroes. They'll die and go to hell and back to save a passer-by. That's why they're heroes.

Rhodey and Sam were originally designed to be, and very frequently act as, Tony and Steve's supporting cast. So when Tony and Steve are in their own books, their closest friends tend to be Rhodey and Sam. When they're in a team book together, Tony and Steve tend to be each others' closest friends. And different writers tend to write their favourite friendships/characters.

(Anonymous) 2012-07-17 03:24 pm (UTC)(link)
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Agreed. And also, idk about Sam but Rhodey has not had a big part in Iron Man canon since Volume 1m 80s 90s canon, until after the movie came out and he got brought back into the fold in a limited capacity. But the current run is Fraction, and well... I think that says all there is to it.

In comics canon, one could also say Happy has been as close if not closer to Tony than Rhodey for many years (before he died... ):