[ SECRET POST #2022 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2022 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 04 pages, 088 secrets from Secret Submission Post #289.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 2 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[anonymouslyyours]

If someone said "You invaded this person's home when you wrote that," I feel like that would be a lot more confusing to most people than "Illegally downloading Gossip Girl is stealing."

And there is a difference between someone giving you a break on the price and you just taking the coffee.

The method of breaking and entering and the method for illegal downloading is different but the purpose is the same. I'm not arguing that the method is similiar or identical but that the goal is. The goal to get something that isn't yours.

[ariakas]

I feel like that would be a lot more confusing

And yet, it's plain that Gabaldon, the authors who agree with her, and the many people who don't feel that piracy is stealing, would disagree. It's difficult to argue feelings, though. They're subjective.

And there is a difference between someone giving you a break on the price and you just taking the coffee.

But you obtained that "price break" by misrepresenting the funds available to you. Which is what one does when one tax evades. So... when I put it to you by analogy you admit there's a difference between stealing and tax evasion? Okay then. I concur, obviously.

but the purpose is the same

No, it isn't. It absolutely isn't. Stealing the jewelry deprives the owner of jewelry. When that advertisement claims "you wouldn't steal a car" it does so, ironically, because it knows that the intent to steal and the intent to pirate are quite different, and the end results are entirely different. They're both wrong, yes. But one takes property someone else owns, the other accesses an unlicensed copy, which may or may not result in a loss of earning potential for the intellectual property right holder (assuming you would have paid for it had you not been able to). In the case of stealing the jewelry, the jewelry-maker still got paid, and is not hurt by this crime whatsoever. In fact, if the original owner has to buy a replacement, the jewelry-maker profits.

Both are wrong, both are crimes, but they are not both stealing.

[anonymouslyyours]

To be honest I'm losing track of what we're both talking about and it's clear neither of us are going to reach any kind of resolution here so I say we just agree to disagree.

[ariakas]

Haha fair enough! I think we've reached that talking in circles point. Agree to disagree, then!

It's time for bed -____-