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fandomsecrets2012-07-16 06:55 pm
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(Anonymous) 2012-07-17 01:42 pm (UTC)(link)Also, I'm a little insulted you think Tony did those things because he was off alcohol. I'm not saying they weren't morally questionable and he didn't go kind of nuts carrying them out and people weren't justified in being pissed off at him for doing it, but he did those things because he was so hellbent on keeping people safe and making sure his identity/tech didn't wind up hurting anyone that he kinda lost sight of some of the moral considerations. But those weren't unforgivable things. They were bad, yes, but not even close to Civil War in scale or reasoning (they had admirable motives, for one, not "yes, somehow the fact that supervillains blew up a bunch of people means superheroes and mutants should be rounded up and tagged because...this will somehow prevent that stuff from happening — you say that makes no fucking sense? Lalala I can't hear you"), and with not even remotely the same motives. Plus, it makes no sense for his character even if you take all questions of morality out of it. If an amoral Tony from an alternate universe got all control-freak-ish and obsessive and went off the deep end, he'd be going off the deep end on the opposite end of the spectrum every single time.
Now, if he had done everything he did in Civil War solely because he had some reason to be terrified that the government had the intention and capability to start mowing down superheroes left and right if they didn't comply (and for some reason no one believed him when he told them this so he couldn't get them to help him fight back in a different way than Cap's moronic protest style), and had a secret back-up plan to undermine the SHRA once everyone was out of danger because he still thought registration was a terrible idea and that all the logic the government used to support it was ridiculous and dangerous...yeah then I could see him going a bit off the rails in terms of throwing people in prison/beating people up/etc in pursuit of that. But the thing about Civil War is that he was written to be honest about it. He actually believed those things.
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I never said it was because of being off alcohol, I said it was because of his additive personality, and it's turn towards control.
And you said the reason for this one too: Tony Stark will do morally questionable things because he's hellbent on keeping people save.
Tony had wanted to do it better, and he did in fact warn everybody it was coming cause he could see the trends. We did in fact see what happened if Gynch was running it instead.