[ SECRET POST #2023 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2023 ⌋

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Comments

[miarrow]

I'm never going to get around to another playthrough of ME3. I can't see Ashley's character ruined like Kaidan's was.

[ariakas]

Eh I think Kaidan's worked if, and only if, you play male!Shep and choose him as an LI. That was surprisingly well done. Otherwise...

[(Anonymous)]

I romanced Kaidan with my mShep in my only playthrough of ME3, so I'm wondering... In what way is he different if you don't romance him or if you're an fShep?

[ariakas]

He's bland. They saved most of the lines with emotional impact, and the VA's best performances, for the love story it seems like. I haven't romanced him as fem!Shep, but it was definitely true if he's just your buddy, and I've heard from others that did romance him that this is the case. There's a whole conversation in the Presidium that fem!Shep doesn't get, apparently.

[(Anonymous)]

How exactly did they ruin Kaidan? *genuinely curious*

[miarrow]

Well in ME1, he was probably the least drama free romance in any Bioware game. He had issues, but he told you flat out that he was dealing with them and that he was fine. He wasn't someone you had to fix. It was like basically you were romancing an adult and it was awesome. In ME2 he got pissed, which I let slide, and then in ME3 they made him in this whiny, kind of horrifying caricature of what people thought Carth Onasi from KOTOR was. There were a couple of times where he was himself, but mostly, he was "SHEPARD! SHEPARD!" "SHEPARD!" and it was like, dude relax already.

Plus I thought it was laughable that he and I guess any other LI from ME1 would consider you dating someone in ME2 cheating. It had been two years and Virmire wasn't exactly you getting back together.

[(Anonymous)]

Huh. Maybe I have a high threshold for whiny, because I never noticed any of that. I mean, the whole bit with Horizon pissed me the hell off (pretty standard), but I found the romance in ME3 sweet.

[miarrow]

Fair enough. I think it was mostly the head-jerk I had from how calm and drama-free he was in ME1 (and that was what I liked about him). I still had a lot of moments I liked him, but man, there was so much drama.

I think maybe it's different if you were "loyal" or whatever.

Eh, I still managed to get an amazing scene with Thane and the best bromance in the world with Garrus and Liara's friendship, so I was pretty satisfied on that account.

[(Anonymous)]

Different Anon here. :)

Mars is probably his whiniest moment because he won't quit complaining about Shepard joining Cerberus. My f!Shep stayed loyal to him in ME2 and even then he didn't cut her any slack for it. I find the Renegade responses in that section VERY fitting. I don't remember the exact wording, but one of her lines is "I'm done explaining myself to you." Going back to Cerberus' effed-up experiments in ME1, I understand why he's still apprehensive. But he is mostly drama-free for the rest of the game (I say mostly because there's a certain scene on the Citadel when I'm like "Really, Kaidan? You REALLY want to go through this again?").

As for Ashley, I always thought she was pretty. Someone needs to throw her a hairpin or something to get the bangs out of her face though.