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⌈ Secret Post #2023 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Don't say it around the really rabid fans and you'll be fine. After what seemed to be teh fifty third conversation along the lines of

"I really think Josh Hutcherson failed Peeta's character because of X, Y and Z."
"He is TOTALLY PERFECT!!!! [Diatribe that completely ignores the points raised for discussion] How dare you disagree?"

I backed out of the fandom completely.



On the note of Finnick, I read him as most likely white because District 4 reminded me strongly of New England/the Maritimes. The Celtic influence in names (Finnick Odair -> Finn O'Dair, Annie and Mags -> Anne and Margaret, names associated with Irish immigrants), the physical descriptions of Finnick and Annie both hit Irish "types" (reddish-brown hair and green eyes, the dark-haired Irish beauty), and a minor event in the third book mentioned D4 traditions that also fit into that idea. Really, I won't throw a strop if Finnick is cast as a POC, but I hate the occasional SJW insisting that I am just passively racist and clutching at straws to make my precious heartthrob white.

[(Anonymous)]

> On the note of Finnick, I read him as most likely white because District 4 reminded me strongly of New England/the Maritimes. The Celtic influence in names (Finnick Odair -> Finn O'Dair, Annie and Mags -> Anne and Margaret, names associated with Irish immigrants), the physical descriptions of Finnick and Annie both hit Irish "types" (reddish-brown hair and green eyes, the dark-haired Irish beauty), and a minor event in the third book mentioned D4 traditions that also fit into that idea. Really, I won't throw a strop if Finnick is cast as a POC, but I hate the occasional SJW insisting that I am just passively racist and clutching at straws to make my precious heartthrob white.

This is the best argument I've seen for him being white, actually. I've heard some really dumb argument for why he MUST be white, but this one makes sense, with the names. That said, the writer has said this was so far into the future, most people were probably mixed race anyways. So casting a biracial person would work, even if the names are descended from the Irish.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, it's not a perfect argument. I do assume that population demographics would change in certain areas more than others over time, but the areas I'm thinking of have kept the Irish/Scottish influence for a couple hundred years at this point, and it's not a stretch to think it could continue on that way. New England is less racially diverse than the US as a whole, and I don't think that is changing much, or at least not at the speed it is in some other locations. Obviously things would change given enough time, but I get the impression that there are lots of places in New England that are still quite insular- no big industry prompting outsiders to come, and there are better oppourtunities elsewhere.

It's less an assumption that everybody is white and more "Given the current population demographics of New England and the Maritimes, and the history that has Irish/Scottish traditions persisting in these areas, it is not a huge stretch to assume that the small surviving population from this area may have heavy Irish/Scottish influences culturally and genetically." D4 might not even be in that area and the point is completely moot, but that's how I read it.