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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-07-20 06:48 pm

[ SECRET POST #2026 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2026 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Breaking Bad]


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[Victorious]


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[The Road to El Dorado]


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[NU'EST / Minhyun - EXO-K / Kai - B1A4 / CNU]


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[Criminal Minds]


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[Legend of Korra]


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09. http://i.imgur.com/r96OK.png
[linked for porny, illustrated, Joker/Oracle]


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13. [SPOILER WARNING for Pokemon Special/Adventures Ruby/Sapphire arc]



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14. [SPOILER WARNING for Iron Man 3]



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16. [TRIGGER WARNING for non-con]

[Power Rangers Dino Thunder]


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17. [TRIGGER WARNING for rape]



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18. [TRIGGER WARNING for suicide]

[touhou project]


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19. [TRIGGER WARNING for rape]

[Tomb Raider]


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20. [TRIGGER WARNING for image is of Katie Holmes getting ?? violently choked maybe]
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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #289.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 (trigger warning for abuse) 2 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
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(Anonymous) 2012-07-20 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Because misogyny.

(I like her, too, OP.)
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[personal profile] la_petite_singe 2012-07-21 02:37 am (UTC)(link)
I feel like this gets thrown around way too easily in fandom sometimes...but in this case it's damn hard to ignore. It's one thing if she's not your fave, but to hate her actions and excuse Walt's? UH...

(Anonymous) 2012-07-20 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
We get to see Walt's story, and we come to empathize with him. Skyler then serves as a block and obstacle to the protagonist, but in a reasonable enough way that she becomes frustrating. I think the hate is excessive and misogynistic as well, but I can understand where it comes from.

Can't get into Marie, though. To each their own.
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[personal profile] fingalsanteater 2012-07-21 01:22 am (UTC)(link)
We may have empathized with Walt in the beginning, but we shouldn't anymore. He had many chances to just walk away and didn't. And, then, he did ruthless, terrible things that went beyond the nature of the business, beyond protecting his family (which he wouldn't have had to protect in the first place if he had walked away from cooking).

Skylar is right to reject him, right to be afraid of him. I think people who can't see or ignore that Walt is the bad guy are missing the point entirely. And, they are probably misogynistic jerks.

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[personal profile] ellie_oops 2012-07-20 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I love her, idgaf.

I see a whole lot of "she's fucking whore cunt and Walt doesn't deserve her" on tumblr. It is pretty sickening. I think I've had one decent conversation/debate with someone who didn't like her.
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[personal profile] htebazytook 2012-07-20 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
wtf who hates Skyler??

(Anonymous) 2012-07-20 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
a ton of asshole misogynistic BB fans.
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[personal profile] cloud_riven 2012-07-20 11:31 pm (UTC)(link)
YES. I was waiting for this secret to pop up ♥

I like to think that people who over-the-top hate were probably held hostage by their love of Walter that they forget that he chose to be the shittiest husband of the year(s). Because Skyler not wanting to put up him and the constant lies? Even when he was given multiple openings, or different routes to take over his hubris? Yeah, fuck that. She's completely justified.

Spoilers? ["I forgive you."
EXCUSE ME?
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I really love this show. I consider it a good thing if it makes me react to it.

(Anonymous) 2012-07-21 02:09 am (UTC)(link)
OP

Yeah, that scene sent chills down my spine. The look on her face when he said that was just...man. God, I love Gunn and Cranston

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[personal profile] yeahscience 2012-07-21 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
OH MY GOD, I JUST SAW YOUR SPOILER TEXT, I WAS SO ANGRY I SCREAMED OUT LOUD.

Goddamn, I hate him.

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(Anonymous) 2012-07-20 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh gosh, a BB secret, and my favorite kind! And no, OP, people hate Skyler because they're ridiculous. She's flawed, but she hasn't killed hundreds of people because of her egotistical mid-life crisis like Walt.

Admittedly, I didn't like her around season 1-2 when she didn't know what Walt was doing and was being a douche to him. But I've since come to love the hell out of her and appreciate what a bad-ass she can be.
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[personal profile] ariakas 2012-07-20 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
The frustration? Because she's the one Walt has please, and part of the reason his life is in such a mess (or so he feels - really, the mess is of his own making, and she offered him any number of ways out).

The hate? Misogyny. Sigh.

(Anonymous) 2012-07-20 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
She fucked Ted.

(Anonymous) 2012-07-20 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
because they're idiots who think Walter is a character who is meant to always be right and sided with

when even the creator of the show says that they've lost all sympathy for Walt and Cranston joked that his only redeeming quality was that he "makes damn good meth", then you are completely missing the point of the character if you're blindly defending Walt

(Anonymous) 2012-07-21 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
"Don't like a female character? You must be a misogynist pig!"

(Anonymous) 2012-07-21 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
...that's not what the secret said at all. and frothing hatred is different from dislike

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(Anonymous) 2012-07-21 01:04 am (UTC)(link)
Because it honestly doesn't make any sense in this particular show to dislike Skyler for her faults but not hold Walt accountable in the same way for all the shit he's done.

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[personal profile] fingalsanteater 2012-07-21 01:23 am (UTC)(link)
Have you even seen the show and the comments about Skylar? You'd be thinking misogyny too.
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[personal profile] yeahscience 2012-07-21 01:40 am (UTC)(link)
There is a lot of misogyny that goes into Skyler hate. Not always -- as I said below, I think there are good reasons to at least find her annoying in the first two seasons and I think that's somewhat intentional -- but the people who look at her "cheating" on Walt (after she'd already told him their marriage was over and also OH RIGHT HE'S A MURDERING DRUG DEALER) or her actions cleaning up after Ted's mess and scream about what a shrill scheming useless harpy bitch she is? Yeah.

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(Anonymous) 2012-07-21 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
I really disliked Skyler for the first few seasons - and no it wasn't because of my "internalized misogyny" as everyone here is claiming it must be, it was because she was fucking irritating and not a very sympathetic character. I think it's easy to dislike her in the first few seasons because she is more of an obstacle than anything, and you really feel for Walt initially because he is doing everything for his family whereas it seems like Skyler is almost trying to stop him (unknowingly, obviously).

After she actually found out what was going on I still thought she was being kind of a bitch to Walt but I definitely stared to sympathize with her more. Later on I think she becomes a much more sympathetic character, and Walt becomes less sympathetic and almost despicable (IMO anyway - I really don't like him though I think as a character he is amazingly written). At this point I totally feel for Skyler (especially after that last episode... yikes)
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[personal profile] yeahscience 2012-07-21 01:38 am (UTC)(link)
No, it's true -- she's a very frustrating and often irritating person in seasons one and two. But the people who are still hating on her and criticizing her actions in seasons three and four (and now five) are just baffling to me. I mean, I hated her in season two, but after season four, I fucking adore her.

(Anonymous) 2012-07-21 01:30 am (UTC)(link)
Skyler has done some really shitty things, BUT Walt is much worse.

They're both compelling characters and I love this show to pieces. You can sympathize with both, but also realize they're both very flawed.

OP

(Anonymous) 2012-07-21 02:04 am (UTC)(link)
Just wanted to clarify that I totally realize there are legitimate reasons to dislike Skylar (although I myself am pretty fond of her). I mostly just don't get the frankly over the top hatred that I've seen come from some people. I've lost count of how many times I've seen her called a cunt or a stupid, ungrateful bitch because she doesn't forgive Walt for everything he does. The fact that some people can vehemently hate Skylar and yet not acknowledge that Walt himself is also very, very flawed is just frustrating to me (and it also seems to be missing the point of Walt's character)

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[identity profile] mutantjules.livejournal.com 2012-07-21 07:02 am (UTC)(link)
I like her too. I wanna say "people are sexist", but I wanna give em the benefit of the doubt (I literally JUST CAUGHT UP with this show so I'm unaware of the fandom, I've been keeping out from spoiler-fear) and I've gotta assume that a lot of hate for her is because it's Walt's story, mostly, and for a good while there she was either directly on his trail or pissed at him for doing what he's doing. By this point though, the show is definitely writing him as an all-out Villain Protagonist and I think sympathy for her is gonna go way up

(and whatever, man. I'd say Jesse is so totally my favourite he's pretty much my heartbeat at this point)