[ SECRET POST #2030 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2030 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[Nana to Kaoru, Oyasumi Punpun, Onani Master Kurosawa]


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03.
[Terry Pratchett]


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04.
[The Hollow Crown: Henry IV]


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05.
[Tori Amos]


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06.
[Dragon Age: Origins]


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07.
[Rihanna, S&M]


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08.
[LotR RPF]


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09.
[On the Road]


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10.
[SM Entertainment - Super Junior, SHINee and EXO]


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11.
[Sherlock]


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12.
[Planescape Torment]


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13.
[The Devil in the White City]


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14.
[CATverse]


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15.
[Fate/stay night]


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16.
[Rammstein]


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17.
[Mass Effect]


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18.
[Metalocalypse]


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19.
[Arashi, V6]


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20.
[Legend of Korra]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 063 secrets from Secret Submission Post #290.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ], [ 1 - posted twice ], [ 1 - personal attack ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

Re: All secondhand gossip

[(Anonymous)]

Spuffy shippers always 'felt dogpiled' even when they were the vast majority in Buffydom and bullying others left, right and centre.

And when I say bullying, I'm talking accusing other pairing shippers of being unfit to be parents (happened to me),publically persecuting someone who just didn't want to host Spuffy fic on her site (which said host expressed perfectly politely and by private email - happened to a friend), publishing the contents of private emails on public forums (also happened to me), etc etc ad a hell of a lot of infinitum.

Huge martyr complexes and most of them whiny, nasty, childish bastards in my experience.

Re: All secondhand gossip

[(Anonymous)]

As a non-Spike fan who's been on MW lurking/occasionally posting without an account, I agree with your assessment of Spuffy fans in general. I keep seeing all these claims of being this abused and marginalized faction, and yet by far the single largest aggregation of fanworks in the Buffyverse pertains to them as far as I can see. I've gotta admit, even if what most of what they say of the nastiness they've faced is true, I'd still happily trade places if that meant my favorite pairing (which is canon!) got even a quarter of the attention theirs does.

That said, Mark and his mods were a bunch of complete self-righteous jerks to at least a few of these people. I didn't read every single pertinent thread on the comments for the "Smashed" review, but I saw at least one clear instance in which a poster politely and intelligently offered another perspective on a key scene primarily by giving a blow by blow description of what actually happened. The mods piled on, followed by Mark, and they actually swore at this person while posting some nasty GIFs, calling him/her a "rape apologist" through extrapolation far beyond what the OP actually said--which was basically that Spike and Buffy had a co-abusive relationship and that Buffy was in charge throughout the episode in question. Others who came to the OP's defense ended up getting dragged down as well.

That's just what I saw. It was nasty no matter who you fan or ship, and it really reflected badly upon the culture of MW (note that I didn't see the supposed "bad people" swearing or insulting, just Mark and the mods). According to Mark, there were tenfold that number saying apparently unconscionable things that we didn't get to see, but even if that's the case some who meant no harm got caught up in it all.

Re: All secondhand gossip

[lunabee34]

Well those are really terrible things to do to other fans, and I'm sorry those happened to you and your friends. :(

I'm not really a Spuffy shipper myself (except insofar as I always ship everybody with everybody LOL), but the Spuffy people I knew back in the day and still know have always been kind-hearted Good Fans of Class. Granted, I was not deeply involved in the het side of the fandom (and really only got into the fandom as it started to wane in 2004) and probably missed a lot of wank as a consequence.