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⌈ Secret Post #2031 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Comicsverse Cap, yeah.

I think movieverse Cap is still adjusting to the future in a way that might make conservatism appealing to him. Although I do think his nature is to sympathise with people who are oppressed, so he might grow out of it once the future shock started to wear off.

[(Anonymous)]

This, I think he might be more liberal-minded for his time period, but in the future could be seen as moderate at the very least. Also conservatism/liberalism aren't the same as being democrat or republican, I think Captain America would still identify with republicans more, even despite whatever social views he may have.

[(Anonymous)]

I have so much trouble seeing a poor kid raised by a single mom during the depression voting with today's Republicans, conservative nostalgia or not.

[(Anonymous)]

Well I was raised the same way and I don't consider myself a Democrat, so I just thought it was possible. I was viewing it from a different angle.

[(Anonymous)]

Different anon- Why? Most of the people still living who were young in the Depression are quite conservative.

[(Anonymous)]

DA this is just in my experience with Depression era generation, but their Eisenhower brand of conservatism would be considered very moderate by some social standards of Regan era conservatism. They usually believe in government funded works projects for the middle and lower class (since that sustained many people during the Depression era), Social Security, Medicare, and would probably rankle at some Romney-ist wordings. YMMV of course.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not quite sure. He grew up during the Great Depression and as the son of a poor, single, immigrant mother.
I picture him more as a staunch supporter of the welfare system (and as a Franklin Roosevelt fan) but to each their own.

[(Anonymous)]

Why would he identify with Republicans? The contemporary Republican party has gone radically far from the mainstream American politics of the 40s, and a guy whose basic ethos is to oppose bullies would have a hard time identifying with a party that goes out of its way to support bullies.

[(Anonymous)]

More with them than Democrats rather, based on the principle that Democrats support bigger government. I don't think he would call himself a member of either, actually. I was more so speaking out against people associating his political party of choice with however liberal or conservative his views may be, since they're too different things.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't really think Steve would be all that against "big government," though. What the Republicans usually frame as "big government" are things that Steve would wholeheartedly support -- welfare programs for the poor, more and better-paid teachers and well-kept schools, more firefighters and policemen, and that kind of thing. They also tend to class anti-bigotry laws as "big government" or indicative thereof, which wouldn't truck with Steve at all. "Big government" isn't really something to be afraid of when you're a kid who grew up in extreme, devastating poverty.

[(Anonymous)]

Not entirely true. I realize that it's a standard right-wing talking point, but it's a lot more complicated than that. Government spending and federal deficits ballooned under George W. Bush in a way that they haven't under Obama, in large part because Bush and the Republican congress were all for spending huge amounts of money on everything from wars to prescription drug benefits for senior citizens -- just as long as nobody asked them to pay for any of it. And as others have pointed out here, the basic New Deal consensus is something that a mainstream young American of the 1940s would tend to be comfortable with, and not consider to be government overreach.

If you're thinking that the U.S. government during WW2 was all about rugged individualism and keeping government hands off private economic activity, you're very wrong. There was rationing, though nothing like Britain's. There were wage and price controls. There was serious, serious government involvement in a lot of aspects of life. What current Republicans call "bigger government" now is really not something that a guy of Cap's time would be likely to think represented any kind of overreach.