[ SECRET POST #2031 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2031 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 043 secrets from Secret Submission Post #290.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[intrigueing]

Dude, it's very possible that I've never seen someone miss the point of a film as completely as you have. The point which is, that life — having friends, being loved, holding onto hope — is good and worth living despite all the shit that goes along with it. Who's to say that a toy's brokenness and abandonment is any different from a human being's old age? Who says their pointless suffering is any different than human beings' pointless undeserved suffering? Who's to say their happiness in spite of their suffering is any less valid than human beings' happiness in spite of their suffering? Woody made it pretty clear that he thought that some things in life, like being loved by Andy and having friends around him, was worth all the hardship in the world over an eternal life of unchanging safety in a museum. I think that's extremely comforting and hopeful and uplifting, not "dark and unhappy".

This kind of "omg, the presence of darkness = ALL DARKNESS AND PURE MISERY ALL THE TIME AND ALL THE HAPPINESS THAT GOES ALONG WITH IT IS A LIE BECAUSE SUFFERING HAS THE ABILITY TO INVALIDATE HAPPINESS" reading is so shallow it makes me want to laugh, and the fact that people think they've struck upon some deep and mature understanding that is better than everyone else's understanding makes me want to laugh even harder.

[(Anonymous)]

Hello, I like you.

[diorama]

That's the amazing thing about art, people take different things away from it. Your interpretation is valid, but so is everyone else's.

[herongale]

Nahh. No, I don't feel like I've hit on anything different or deeper than anyone else. That's just how this series of films affects me personally, if that makes any sense? And I feel like my nephews will react similarly to me in time, mostly because I see them as being as ridiculously oversensitive and emotional about stuff as I am. That's all I was trying to say.

You know, I'd rather see the Toy Story movies as being hopeful in the way you describe. I understand that was the intended message, after all. Logically, I agree with you, too. I find happiness in a lot of different stories which have similar levels of darkness in them, so it's not like I can't see how it works or haven't experienced that with a lot of other movies or books. But for whatever reason, I just don't get a happy emotional response to these movies. Or even a particularly hopeful one.

Anyway, I wasn't trying to come off as being all "I've got this down better than you plebes" or whatever! In fact I feel the opposite: it frustrates me that I can't just let go of this emotional response and appreciate the films for what they are. So anyway I apologize for making it sound like I look down on people for reading these films in a more hopeful way. All I can do is assure you that I don't look down on anyone like that.

[intrigueing]

Ah, well, perhaps I misunderstood what you wanted to say, but your description of people who thought the ending was nice as "less thoughtful" and "wallowing in cheap sentimentality" kind of makes that conclusion inevitable, y'know?

[herongale]

Yeah, wow that's... sure a thing I said.

Wow.

God, I need to sort of pay closer attention to the words I'm typing, huh. ANYWAY THAT ISN'T REALLY EXACTLY WHAT I MEANT EVEN THOUGH THAT IS CLEARLY WHAT I SAID. Seriously, wow.

/facepalms over personal dumbness. Anyway, yeah. Uh... (wanders off in blushing shame...)

[(Anonymous)]

*pat pat* its okay bad internet things happen to everyone

ur good?

[intrigueing]

It's fine! Just wanted to clear up what you were intending — I know I've said things that came out sounding reeeeaally off from what I meant on the internet too ;P