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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-07-25 06:50 pm

[ SECRET POST #2031 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2031 ⌋

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Re: Really stupid thought that I have to get out

(Anonymous) 2012-07-26 04:25 am (UTC)(link)
Hi five, fellow bad-pun-loving anon!

Eurgh, random bad translations are one of my biggest pet peeves in fandom. If there isn't a good reason to use another language (and you don't speak it well), please, please don't.

Re: Really stupid thought that I have to get out

(Anonymous) 2012-07-26 05:08 am (UTC)(link)
THIS SO MUCH. This is such a pet peeve of mine.
And if you really need to mix something 'exotic' *puke* in there (to, y'know, convince the reader the character's foreign and you're just that fond of stereotypes), there are very good dictionaries online to translate simple terms. Gratis means 'for free' in Spanish, NOT 'thank you' (that'd be gracias). Otaku has an awful connotation in original Japanese, so you can't expect a Japanese character to apply the term lightly. Typing a bunch of Latin words doesn't automatically form a coherent sentence, no matter how cool it looks. Using the Japanese spelling for an English word doesn't make you more of a fan, just a purist idiot. Addio is a rather strong term for an Italian to say goodbye, it implies they won't be seeing you ever again (arrivederci or ciao would be more acceptable). And so on.
Also, if you make the effort of learning a language other than your native tongue, you'll use it. You won't weave ridiculously basic words of your own language into your speech. You may make mistakes, but you won't be saying 'Hallo', 'Hola', 'Konnichiwa' and so on, because the fucking first thing you learn is that, in English, it's 'Hello'. You may use your native vocabulary when you don't remember/know how to say something, but will try to explain what you mean, rather than assuming everybody knows what you're talking about.
RAGH. I have too many feels about this stupid detail.

Re: Really stupid thought that I have to get out

(Anonymous) 2012-07-26 05:32 am (UTC)(link)
these are all valid complaints, don't worry

Re: Really stupid thought that I have to get out

(Anonymous) 2012-07-26 09:05 am (UTC)(link)
With you a hundred percent, especially on that last point. Seriously, when I was learning English, I used the hell out of the simple words - yes, no, thank you, can I go to the bathroom, so on and so forth. People don't execute grammatically flawless sentences with complex structures and advanced vocabulary, and then add a "oui" or "da" at the end. They just...don't.

(All right, maybe there ARE some people in the world who do that, or maybe people who are just trolling, but not generally speaking.)

Re: Really stupid thought that I have to get out

(Anonymous) 2012-07-26 10:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Precisely! As a student, you tend to overuse non-verbal language and the simplest of words because they're, well, simple. Those get ingrained into your brain out of simple repetition, you don't borrow these terms from your mother tongue. Sentence structure, specific vocabulary and so on, you borrow the hell out of those, but NOT the yes/no, hello/goodbye type of stuff.

That said, it's kind of hilarious when English-speaking people use certain Spanish words/phrases ('Johnny, la gente está muy loca', anybody?). Though I honestly can't believe 'Mi casa es tu casa' is so hard to spell. Google is your friend!

Anyway, thank you both. I feel validated now u_u *hugs lovely anons* And I think I'll start saying 'Hola/Chau' and 'sí' instead of the English equivalents to troll the shit out of people. Thanks for the idea >:D

... I could start saying 'Ave/Salve' and so on. O__O I could troll as an ancient Roman and act outraged at people using these inferior, evolved, deformed versions of Latin whenever somebody says something in Spanish/Italian/French/Portuguese and so on. I... I need to sit down. And start plotting.

Re: Really stupid thought that I have to get out

(Anonymous) 2012-07-26 10:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I could troll as an ancient Roman and act outraged at people using these inferior, evolved, deformed versions of Latin whenever somebody says something in Spanish/Italian/French/Portuguese and so on.

YES! Add Esperanto to the list too. It's not a real language! ;)

Re: Really stupid thought that I have to get out

(Anonymous) 2012-07-26 10:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Hahahaha FUCK YEAH. Yes indeed. Oh sorry, I meant jes, certe XD All these people and their 'real', non-constructed languages need to get over themselves.

Re: Really stupid thought that I have to get out

(Anonymous) 2012-07-26 10:36 pm (UTC)(link)
EXACTOMENTE! Constructed languages are dead useful and sexy. Like, everyone should know a bit of Dothraki. There's nothing more arousing than a half-naked horse lord saying, "my moon and my stars, ride me." Solves a shitload of underpopulation problems IMHO.

Klingon should be a required language in schools too. There would be so much less anger management issues if everyone knew Klingon.

Re: Really stupid thought that I have to get out

(Anonymous) 2012-07-26 10:45 pm (UTC)(link)
And to think that I argue with my family when I say Latin is useful. I like you, fellow anon, and the way you think. I heartily approve of half-naked horse lords and their sexy words of sexiness.
I can't fully endorse Klingon as a required language in schools, though, when there's Sindarin and Quenya and so many wonderful Elvish languages that can force you to improve your calligraphy so drastically. I'm drawn to beautiful-looking languages (oh Japanese, one day you and I will become very good friends, very good friends indeed).
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Re: Really stupid thought that I have to get out

[personal profile] agentcthulhu 2012-07-27 01:38 am (UTC)(link)
Ah hell, might as well de-anon. The Esperanto and Dothraki comments were me. I wish I'm more proficient in Latin. It really is useful though. Many scientific, medical and judicial terms are of Latin origin. Knowing Latin makes things so much easier.

I'm more partial to Chinese calligraphy than Japanese calligraphy. I like the logographic aspect of Chinese; Japanese writing is more syllabic than logographic. It is a unique language nonetheless. I wish you smooth sailing in your adventures with Japanese!