[ SECRET POST #2031 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2031 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

They had gay marriage in Norse mythology and ancient Norse culture? You're right, that's certainly news to me!

[seiberwing]

Well, there was that one time Thor dressed in drag and nearly got married to a male giant (of course it was Loki's idea).

My main point is that Asgard's 'traditional values' are hardly what modern Americans would call traditional values. Women in battle wasn't an unheard of thing and as for abortion, 'traditional values' in many parts of the pre-Christian world were to abandon already born babies who were unwanted.

[(Anonymous)]

You have to remember that while Asgard may have certainly been influenced by Norse culture, it is still its own seperate entity. In both the comics and the movie it's a big deal for Sif to be a warrior (she was the only girl in the swordfighting school until Brunhilde came, if I remember the comics correctly), while I believe it was slightly more common IRL. While women are certainly well-respected in Asgard, there are definitely distinct gender roles (women are expected to be suited for magic while men lean towards physical combat). I don't believe women are considered "inferior," but there are certain expectations of each gender.

Considering his father adopted Loki, an "unwanted baby" and raised him as his own, I can't see him supporting abortion. Loki was like a brother to Thor, and he would probably figure that it would be better to give them a chance at family and a way to choose their own path rather than to just kill them outright.

[seiberwing]

We don't really have proof of what those expectations are, though. We don't have much information on Asgardian society to begin with and I think a lot of people conflate their antiquated speech patterns with adhering to their own perceptions of what ancient values would be.


Considering his father adopted Loki, an "unwanted baby" and raised him as his own

Loki was much more than just some random baby lying out on the street, though. He was the son of the Frost Giant King and an important political tool if Odin raised him right. That also speaks nothing to his positions on abortion, as a post-natal baby is not the same thing as a fetus, nor does it mean what Odin did is common for his culture.

Also not everyone thinks abortion means killing a baby. FYI.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm drawing my information on Asgardain society from what was shown in the movie and in the comics. The comics and movie both show that women fighters are not the norm, showing that women are still generally viewed as physically more fragile than men.

It doesn't matter if Loki was born a prince or a peasant, or even how common Odin's actions were. What matters is the relationship that formed between them, which I do believe would no doubt influence his opinion on unwanted babies and the lives they could have, the relationships they could form, etc.

Yes, I am well aware of the different ways people refer to the growing life inside a woman. I'll amend my statment: I think he would take issue with killing potential babies.