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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-07-25 06:50 pm

[ SECRET POST #2031 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2031 ⌋

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Re: Good case for Steve

(Anonymous) 2012-07-26 07:48 pm (UTC)(link)
The trouble is, even if you consider the fetus to be an "actual person with its own life and rights," no one has the right to use or occupy another person's body without her consent. You don't have the right to another person's body, tissues, or organs against their will in order to sustain your own life. Even if that person is dead -- consent is required for organ donation. Women should not have fewer rights than corpses.

That a fetus must die in order to remove it from an unconsenting woman's body is tragic, but the bottom line is, without her consent, it doesn't have a right to be there.

Re: Good case for Steve

(Anonymous) 2012-07-27 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
Seriously, this.

Re: Good case for Steve

(Anonymous) 2012-07-27 04:08 am (UTC)(link)
If you're going to frame it as a trespassing argument, I believe there was discussion elsewhere on this thread over whether it's justified to use deadly force on a person who has broken into your home, even if the person is posing no immediate threat. Facedown on the floor, hands in the air - any mental image you wish to use convey the universal message of one who means no harm.

If there *is* an immediate threat, a weapon, say - analogous to an abortion medically necessary to save the woman's life - the decision becomes much harder for an objective party to make. But not until then.

Re: Good case for Steve

(Anonymous) 2012-07-27 01:34 pm (UTC)(link)
1. I'd say a person's body is more inherently "theirs" than the property they live in, so occupying someone's body against their will goes a bit beyond simple trespassing.

2. Even under ideal circumstances, with proper medical care, childbirth carries a nonzero risk of death for the woman. That's enough of an immediate threat for me.

Re: Good case for Steve

(Anonymous) 2012-07-27 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
A woman's body is not an object.

Let me repeat that: A woman's body is not an object.

Your argument is completely invalid.

Re: Good case for Steve

(Anonymous) 2012-07-28 06:13 am (UTC)(link)
How do I give you all my applause?