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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-07-27 06:57 pm

[ SECRET POST #2033 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2033 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Mortal Kombat]


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[The Young and the Restless]


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[Firefly, Joss Whedon; Sherlock BBC, Steven Moffat]


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08. http://i.imgur.com/Je2qV.png
[not really porny but implied underage sexual stuff; photomanip; snape/hermione]


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13. [SPOILER WARNING for Pokemon Black/White]



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14. [SPOILER WARNING for Kurau: Phantom Memory]



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15. [WARNING for rape]



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16. [WARNING for suicide]



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17. [WARNING for incest]

[Kono Naka ni Hikari, Imouto ga Iru!]


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18. [WARNING for animal death/abuse?]

[Eden Lake]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #290.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2012-07-28 12:55 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

Point 1: Irene was not independent. It was explicitly stated in the episode that she didn't even know what to do with her blackmail material until Moriarty told her. She needs saving by Sherlock several times. She gets in over her head many times during the episode.

Point 2: She was absolutely a villain. Of the show and especially of the episode. She was portrayed as a person who extorts others, who manipulates them, etc. Contrast this to the original story, where she was just trying to live her life, not harming others or extorting them -- it was out of fear that she MIGHT do so that the king hired Holmes in the first place.

Point 3: He did use it disrespectfully. If "The Woman" is her working title as a sex worker, and he knows her name, and he isn't in an environment where using her name would be unusual or a bad idea, then using her working title is not a show of respect -- rather, it shows that he doesn't care about her enough to use her real name, that she is only a person insofar as she is a sex worker, and so on. It is not a mark of respect but rather the denial of her personhood and relegation of her to her work.

Point 4: That doesn't make it not sexist and rather gross. Also, arguably, homophobic. Just because Moffat supposedly had a "point" in doing it and it was "part of the plot" doesn't make it okay. Having a lesbian fall in love with a man and portraying it as her only actually meaningful relationship in the entire episode is sexist.

Point 5: She did need saving. She was about to have her head cut off. Moffat chose that our last view of her should be Sherlock saving her life because she apparently couldn't save herself.

"Just saying."
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[personal profile] fenm 2012-07-28 02:09 am (UTC)(link)
Point 4: Just because [...] it was "part of the plot"

But it wasn't part of the plot. It was one line that that ultimately had no impact on anything. Not a damn thing would have been different if she had been straight. Even her denial of being in love with him in the blackmailing scene had nothing to do with her being lesbian, and everything to do with what Sherlock was able to do with that information.
Edited 2012-07-28 02:12 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2012-07-28 02:50 am (UTC)(link)
I'm always so torn with the whole "I'm not gay"/"I am" scene because John's half is amazing and progressive and really thought-provoking, and Irene's is embarrassingly full of unfortunate implications. Which, yeah, points back to Moffat not understanding or being able to write women for shit. I usually cut him slack because I love the concept of that scene so much: that love doesn't need to have ANYTHING to do with physical or sexual attraction.
There's just a LOT of crap you have to wade through before you get to that concept.
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[personal profile] biohazardgirl 2012-07-28 04:21 am (UTC)(link)
UGH THIS. That scene is WONDERFUL if it's put in a vaccum, but has very unfortunate implications when put into the context of the episode.

(Anonymous) 2012-07-28 03:10 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

lol okay, whatever you need to tell yourself, bb.

(Anonymous) 2012-07-28 03:31 am (UTC)(link)
da

this is such a dumb reply, why did you bother?

(Anonymous) 2012-07-28 07:05 am (UTC)(link)
Because they don't have any kind of thought out response and don't have enough nous to keep quiet about it.