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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-07-27 06:57 pm

[ SECRET POST #2033 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2033 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Mortal Kombat]


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[The Young and the Restless]


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[Firefly, Joss Whedon; Sherlock BBC, Steven Moffat]


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08. http://i.imgur.com/Je2qV.png
[not really porny but implied underage sexual stuff; photomanip; snape/hermione]


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[ ----- SPOILERY SECRETS AHEAD ----- ]












13. [SPOILER WARNING for Pokemon Black/White]



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14. [SPOILER WARNING for Kurau: Phantom Memory]



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15. [WARNING for rape]



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16. [WARNING for suicide]



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17. [WARNING for incest]

[Kono Naka ni Hikari, Imouto ga Iru!]


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18. [WARNING for animal death/abuse?]

[Eden Lake]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #290.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.
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[personal profile] riddian 2012-07-28 01:38 am (UTC)(link)
If I may butt in, it sounds to me like the friend may have that kink, but the problem is that she doesn't realize she would need to warn for anything in the first place. Non-con isn't a problem, but thinking of it as "twu wuv" and "so cute teehee!" is. I got the impression that the friend's attitude toward non-con stuff wasn't limited to fic and extended to RL situations, and that's where things get creepy.
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[personal profile] velvet_mace 2012-07-28 02:04 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I agree. Warning is definitely necessary.

But I was getting the feel off the OP that the fact that it was romantic and humorous was the problem, not the fact that it wasn't properly warned for. While warnings are important, I don't think that would get in the way of the OP being able to advise on the fic itself. I got the feeling the OP couldn't even read her friend's fic because she was squicked at the treatment of the subject matter.

I got the feeling the core of the problem was the friend insisting that her kink was fluffy bunnies and waff -- when in fact the friend wants her kink to be fluffy bunnies and waff -- and non-con. There's an awful lot of "think of the poor victims" shaming that gets laid onto people who have this kink. Honestly, no, they don't want to think of the victims. Because this is their happy escapism time where they don't have to get bogged down in all that real life misery.
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[personal profile] stainless 2012-07-28 02:10 am (UTC)(link)
Honestly, no, they don't want to think of the victims. Because this is their happy escapism time where they don't have to get bogged down in all that real life misery.

Thank you for this. I don't usually go for Fluffy Bunnies Noncon, but I do go for stuff that in real life would be pretty fucking creepy, and... that, yeah. It's not supposed to be realistic. That's not why I like it.

(Anonymous) 2012-07-28 07:38 am (UTC)(link)
You get on your high horse and try to make everyone feel bad for "kinkshaming" like it makes us all nasty people, then come out with 'we don't want to think about the victims so we can enjoy our happy porn place'

That attitude SHOULD be shamed, and I make no apologies for it. Maybe cos I just dealt irl with a hideous abuse case that centred all round this "if you are targetted it's your fault and you wanted it really" BS. It is toxic, full stop, the end.

Shame on you, Shame. You come across as utterly selfish and callous.

(Anonymous) 2012-07-28 10:43 am (UTC)(link)
To me she comes across as thoughtful and pragmatic, and her comments made a very clear distinction between fantasy and reality. You can cry shame on her and her cow and her third cousin once removed all you want, but in this case, I don't see it sticking.
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[personal profile] stainless 2012-07-28 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
THIS.

(Anonymous) 2012-07-28 11:37 am (UTC)(link)
I'm pretty sure there's a difference between "I don't ever want to think about the real-life victims of rape and abuse," and "When I'm having my sexy-pretend time, I don't want to think about real-life tragedy -- not because I lack compassion, but because if I thought about the horrible suffering of others in every waking moment, I'd spend my life in misery. It's okay for me to take some time out for entirely fictional sexy-pretending."

And this is coming from someone who doesn't have a non-con/rape kink.
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[personal profile] fuchsiascreams 2012-07-28 12:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I mean, some people have rape kinks. It's a very common fantasy (for women in particular), and it's not wrong or bad. In fact, a lot of sexual abuse survivors later go on to have rape kinks.