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⌈ Secret Post #2033 ⌋

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[Mortal Kombat]

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[The Young and the Restless]

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[Firefly, Joss Whedon; Sherlock BBC, Steven Moffat]

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08. http://i.imgur.com/Je2qV.png
[not really porny but implied underage sexual stuff; photomanip; snape/hermione]

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13. [SPOILER WARNING for Pokemon Black/White]

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14. [SPOILER WARNING for Kurau: Phantom Memory]

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15. [WARNING for rape]

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16. [WARNING for suicide]

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17. [WARNING for incest]

[Kono Naka ni Hikari, Imouto ga Iru!]

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18. [WARNING for animal death/abuse?]

[Eden Lake]

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I also like how she said she was "anti-labellist" about her sexuality--people took her "well, I am [gay]" comment to mean "I'm 100% lesbian and have never ever been with or loved a man" (even though we heard that she had an affair with "both parties" of a married couple earlier in the episode). That's...pretty limiting. I love that moment with John because they're both acknowledging that despite their usual preferences/orientation, they both feel drawn to and connected with Sherlock specifically because of who he is. And it's obvious that he has strong feelings for her too, when he thought he was 'above' that sort of thing. She's messed up and makes terrible choices and all, but same goes for John, Sherlock, Moriarty, everywhere. I just think people are looking at it a bit too literally and not seeing the grays.

I also like how she said she was "anti-labellist" about her sexuality

Lara might have said that, but Irene does label herself; she says she's gay. And yes, when she said she was gay, people took it to mean she was gay. Given the context (comparing her to a guy vehemently defending his heterosexuality), it would make sense that that meant, "I've never been in love with a man". That's what John is saying, after all, and she's saying, "Yeah, same here". In fact, if the point is to compare her to John, "I've never been in love with a man" is the only way that line makes any sense. And if she's not being compared to John, what's the point of that exchange?

I guess I just personally don't interpret "gay" as "100% Kinsey-6 homosexual," and I really don't think we were supposed to in this case, if only just because of her chosen profession and the fact that we heard about her sleeping with other men, etc. I thought her point was twofold--"I generally prefer women and also I don't fall in love because sex means something different to me," and yet here she's finding herself drawn to Sherlock, maybe sexually but also emotionally/intellectually, and that's a surprise because she thought she wasn't interested in that. And similarly, Sherlock is the opposite sexually (not into anyone whereas she's into--or at least been with--men & women), but he too thinks he's 'above' having romantic/sexual/emotional feelings for anyone, but he's wrong. That's proven over the course of the series; he says he's "just got one [friend]," but then in TRF Moriarty points out that he does indeed care about Mrs. Hudson and ~~Greg~~ Lestrade too (but he stupidly underestimates Molly, which is how Sherlock ultimately lives...I think). And he thinks he's too superior to fall prey to normal-people emotions and mistakes and everything, but in that "this is just losing" scene he's clearly just as affected as she is. So...yeah, basically I think it's all about sexual fluidity and also about these three characters discovering feelings, of all sorts, that they didn't know they could have. Sorry for the tl;dr. :P I just have a lot of Irene feelings.

I guess I just personally don't interpret "gay" as "100% Kinsey-6 homosexual,"

I don't always, either, but again, she's specifically being compared to John in this scene.

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