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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-07-29 12:11 pm

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Unpopular Ships
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Fandoms you wish existed
How old are you?
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Money is tight...

(Anonymous) 2012-07-29 10:20 pm (UTC)(link)
...for me right now, and I'm seriously considering doing furry art commissions for income. I'm a good artist, and I know some decent money can be made that way, once you earn a good rep for quality and delivery.

But I have two close friends who hate furries with a passion. If someone thinks Disney's Robin Hood attractive, then these two immediately declare that person a sick pervert who wants to have sex with animals. Drawing furry art is even worse, because the artist is perpetuating the sickness.

I'm not a furry, but I do find Disney's Robin Hood attractive. (Moredecai and adult!Simba, too...) I do NOT in any way want to have sex with animals. I just need more income, and furry commissions seem a viable option.

How long could I manage to hide drawing furry art from them? IDEK...

Re: Money is tight...

(Anonymous) 2012-07-29 10:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Just come out and tell them you're doing it for a quick, easy buck, and if they have a problem with that, they can fuck right off. People who want to commission furry porn are going to find someone to commission it from whether you take those commissions or not, so as long as you need the money and they're willing to give it to you, you should take it.

Re: Money is tight...

(Anonymous) 2012-07-30 02:38 am (UTC)(link)
OP here.

Just flat-out telling them would be the ballsy thing to do. I'm not very ballsy, to be honest.

I think they would understand needing money, but I don't know if they could forgive me being willing to draw even G-rated furry art, like icons or character illustrations. I don't have many friends IRL, and would miss these two. Their opinion on furry art is the one place we disagree on. (I don't mind it and know everyone who likes it is NOT perverted.)

It's just a big tangle of uncertainty: To risk or not to risk.

Re: Money is tight...

(Anonymous) 2012-07-30 01:23 am (UTC)(link)
Do these friends snoop through your things and/or your computer? D:

Because otherwise, just, hide it? And use an alternate account to do your dealings.

Re: Money is tight...

(Anonymous) 2012-07-30 02:33 am (UTC)(link)
OP here

No, they don't snoop through my things. I'm worried that I might accidentally say something that would spill it. Or hell, I might forget and leave a sketch laying around that they find, or draw one in my potential non-furry sketchbook because that's what I had with me when the idea struck. :/

I have looked into ways of receiving payment that won't link to my real name, but haven't found any yet.

Re: Money is tight...

(Anonymous) 2012-07-30 03:14 am (UTC)(link)
I meant alternate deviantart/furaffinity/whatever account, not money account.

As far as I know, artists that do furry art take money in their name or else receive payments in the account of a friend or relative.

But in this case, difficult or not, if this is weighting on your mind so much that you think you might give yourself away, just explain the situation to your friends; if you don't feel it's going against something personal, tell them that you've heard that furry artists pay good money and that drawing that stuff is easier than realism or other styles so you can churn them out faster.

I don't know, just try to sell the idea to them and try to separate the idea of you from the idea of the fandom in their minds.

Re: Money is tight...

(Anonymous) 2012-07-30 06:56 am (UTC)(link)
OP again

Thanks for your comments, you've given me a great deal to think about. I appreciate your feedback!

Re: Money is tight...

(Anonymous) 2012-07-30 07:42 pm (UTC)(link)
You're welcome!

Re: Money is tight...

(Anonymous) 2012-07-31 09:01 am (UTC)(link)
What I did was make an account on FA, post 2 examples of explicit porn I drew just for that account as advertisement, paid for a $4 flag/advert on FA and the commissioners came in.
I kept doing those pictures until I got a job.

Other things I did
- With my new FA account came a new email and a new paypal. All under the same name with a fake address.
- I never did any traditional work, it was all digital. If you're going the trad route, by a new artbook that you keep hidden somewhere. On the first page write "desperate for money art book" as a buffer if they rummage through your underwear draw and find it.
- If it's digital, keep it all in a separate folder with a generic name locked only to your account. Have several dummy folders.
- Don't talk about your life on your dummy account. If you must list a location - list somewhere you have visited. Don't talk about your age, gender, interests, fandoms
- Do NOT interact with your dummy account in anyway. Don't tell ANYONE about it. Don't watch it. Don't look at it when not signed into it. Don't fave anything. Don't watch the same people. Don't comment or fave any art.
- When you no longer need the account - just drop it. Plenty of abandoned accounts and you can always return.
- You don't need to talk about any furry characters you find interesting. You don't even need to be a furry.

Yes, furry porn pays a LOT.

You could feasibly hide it forever. Some of my RL friends and internet peeps know I've done Furry porn for commissions. Even seen some of it.
But they all know outside of the times I do commission that I have little-to-no interest in the community or the art. I don't think anyone has accused me of being a furry - if they did I'd probably look at them oddly and shrug.

But if I hadn't tell them, they would never have known.

Re: Money is tight...

(Anonymous) 2012-07-31 09:32 pm (UTC)(link)
not op

how did you manage to match your paypal to a bank account? I've never used paypal, but I thought they cared about names matching and stuff?

Re: Money is tight...

(Anonymous) 2012-08-01 03:01 pm (UTC)(link)
my normal paypal is set up directly to my bank account, the "fake" paypal I hooked up to my debit mastercard - both these cards attach to the one bank account under my name.

They didn't seem to give a shit here. I set it up, got an email confirmation, got a bank account confirmation (took them a couple of days to determine it was a real card) - but nothing was ever pulled up over my paypal name and the card name not being the same. They did some mobile number verification, but nothing was done about the fake address.

I live in australia if it makes a difference.

If I recall my two paypals were different paypal accounts. One for purchases, one for FA commissions. there was a 3rd option - business one? I ignored that since it was for professionals, not <$300 a fortnight.
Not sure if that had anything to do with it.